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Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/12/2008 2:19 AM  |  Flag  
Yes Doctor Golab it is hard for A/C reps to identify pit bulls since they euthanize them by the truckload!

The dog lobby plants actually pursauded the CDC to stop collecting data after this report....Gotta wonder how many have been killed since?...Gotta be at least 100 piticides.

This is why they hate DBO...no one is suppose to be tracking this. The plan was for Delise to control and release the the data...ie "35 dog breeds have killed"

Meanwhile Pits kill an American every twenty days, while other large breeds go decades between such incidents.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/12/2008 3:02 AM  |  Flag  
PG 135 of the Lockwood study:

"In the Lockwood & Lindy survey (1987), 42.7% of the Pit Bull attacks involved animals that were chained, fenced or inside prior to the incident. Another 14% involved the dogs jumping or breaking chains. For bites involving other breeds 26.7% were similiarly restrained but only 1% involved breaking restraint."

This is the biggie...these dogs are extremely powerful and escape prone. They defeat noemal containment infrastructures at a rate 14 times greater than other breeds. At cursory look at any Canine weight pulling competition reveals that the Pit bulls dominate in the 40-100lb classes.

They need superior owners with superior containment infrastructures and superior insurance coverage. Of course the normalcy envy of the Pit Community will never embrace it.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/12/2008 3:27 AM  |  Flag  
James Crosby is like a bizarre sponge, spewing out whatever he recently ingested. First Lockwood, now Golab, who knows how many fell in between? I thought "experts" were called upon to ADD to the issue, not regurgitate.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/12/2008 5:10 AM  |  Flag  
If the HSUS actually keeps stats on fatal dog attacks why don't they publish them? Are they Top Secret or something?!

Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/12/2008 6:01 AM  |  Flag  
Golab, Gilchrist, and Lockwood need to be reminded that they are involved in PUBLIC, HUMAN SAFETY ISSUES

They are not representatives of the dog breeding and dog fighting world!

Yet even acknowledging their extremist biases, they STILL had to admit that pit bulls are the biggest killers of humans.

However, these fake "public interest" dog industry representatives with the "sounds good" credentials have no business representing the American public and receiving public funds.

And "The dog lobby plants actually pursauded the CDC to stop collecting data after this report"

The CDC let DOG FIGHTERS and DOG BREEDERS get them to collude with them to hide human death and injury and facts related to those things, and determine policy. Aand for that they should be sued. Class action suit.

Anonymous mrs.Poodle  |  12/12/2008 8:16 AM  |  Flag  
Sometimes pit bull owners don't know what a pit bull is.

Somebody I know wrote an article against pit bulls and received a letter from a pitbull owner saying it wasn't fair because am.staffs can be dangerous too.(sigh)

Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/12/2008 9:01 AM  |  Flag  
The AVMA has some nerve!

Over the years, the AVMA has supported heinous abuse to animals, including dogs

They support puppy mills, they support nearly everything as long as it benefits BREEDERS

The AVMA works for those who make MONEY breeding and selling animals. That has long been a complaint about the AVMA. And in a knee-jerk way they will support the breeders 9 times out of 10.

Golab is just repeating the same old useless propaganda fed to her by the breeder lobby

Maybe someday the AVMA will get real, but it hasn't yet

It represents the FINANCIAL interests of those who make money from animals- not the animals, not public safety.

And a financial lobby has ZERO business getting involved with public safety issues.

Do we hire tobacco lobbyists to sit on public health "centers?"

People like this determining public policy are DANGEROUS.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/12/2008 9:03 AM  |  Flag  
And much of the dull-witted media has no clue that the AVMA is a business lobby

Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/12/2008 2:30 PM  |  Flag  
I imagine other animal groups, in addition to the HSUS, also track dog bite fatalities. Each of these entities keeps the information private. The only group that shares this knowledge with the public is Animal People News. Clearly, the LAST report (97-98) was the LAST public report. One does not need to read between the lines. The CDC should have given this role to DOCTORS -- people dedicated to saving human lives, NOT animal groups who are dedicated to covering up harm some animals inflict.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/12/2008 11:13 PM  |  Flag  
CDC Fraud Squad

We've got paradoxal Lockwood, who has researched pit bulls extensively, particularly regarding the unique danger they pose when they attack, that publicly denounces all forms of pit bull regulations, including mandatory sterilization. This man also likes to tell the story about his being "surprised" that a pit bull tried to attack him. He is the author of the oft-heard "disembowel" pit bull quote as well. The photograph sums up his bizarreness.
http://aspcacommunity.ning.com/group/livechatwithdrrandalllockwood12to2pmest9052008

Grade F -- Lockwood miserably failed in his role on the CDC study, which presumably is about saving future victims from massive injury and death.

We've got Doctor Julie Gilchrist, of the CDC, who is a former EIS officer and has a “passion for helping kids be kids." She too has publicly denounced pit bull laws. This may be due to the fact that she has not personally witnessed a child's scalp ripped off by a "sudden" pit bull attack or a World War II senior citizen's leg "eaten" to the bone by a pit bull. Clearly Gilchrist is unaware or chooses to ignore that pit bulls are killing a U.S. citizen every 20 days.
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:98ww257FCp0J:www.cdc.gov/employment/pdf/job_profile_pediatricians.pdf+%22Julie+Gilchrist,+MD,+(CDR,+USPHS)%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Injuries are the leading cause of death among children, and much of what
causes children to be admitted to a hospital Emergency Department or ICU
are injury-related and preventable. That simple realization brought Julie
Gilchrist, a pediatrician specializing in sports medicine, to CDC a decade
ago. “I wanted my work to have impact on a broader scale than one patient at a
time,” says the former EIS officer, who oversees research and programs in
many of the injury topic areas that affect children, including water
safety/drowning prevention; sports and recreation-related injury prevention;
dog-bite prevention; and choking/suffocation/strangulation prevention.

Gilchrist brings a “passion for helping kids be kids” by helping them be challenged yet safe in their activities.


Gilchrist also lives in Fulton County, Georgia, specifically the town of Stone Mountain, the same town were Sherri Self lives. One has to wonder if Gilchrist is a pit bull owner.

Grade F -- Gilchrist miserably failed in her role on the CDC study and her precious job at the CDC, which specializes in child injury.

Finally, we've got veterinarian Gail Golab, that represents the almighty AVMA lobby (She is head of the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) Animal Welfare Division). Tubber Golab recently flew to Australia to become America's first veterinarian "certified" in animal welfare. Since the certification was granted in Australia, not the US, one would think the "honor" is BUNK.
http://www.worldvet.org/displayarticle4485.html

Among her most egregious statements, she spews the untruthful line regarding how dog bites are recorded for statistical reasons.

Grade F -- Golab is a sickening example of how the AVMA lobby directly and powerfully affects public safety policy in thousands of US cities.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/13/2008 6:45 AM  |  Flag  
Can the CDC be sued for placing dog breeder industry operatives on its "study?"

Anonymous Anonymous  |  12/13/2008 2:00 PM  |  Flag  
They probably have no idea that they did!

Anonymous Jersey  |  12/13/2008 6:30 PM  |  Flag  
In my own research, it seems Julie
Gilchrist was most often quoted or interviewed by pit bull loving groups. The message she gave, the same one echoed by the bogus National Canine Research Council, is that more things kill kids than dogs. But Julie Gilchrist has no expertise in dogs, she's a pediatrician, and she is most concerned with and familar with things that hurt children most often, the things they spend the most time around - strollers, toys, playground equipment, etc.

I find it amusing how a pit bull owner will say you have no idea about pits unless you've owned one or spent time with one, yet will take law making advice on dogs from a pediatrician. They hear what they want to hear regardless of what the facts or the real knowledgable people say.

Anonymous Jimmy O  |  12/13/2008 10:26 PM  |  Flag  
I find it interesting that Julie Gilchrist lives in the same little town of Stone Mountain, Georgia, that Sherri Self lives in. You remember Miss Self, president of the Georgia American Pit Bull Terrier Association, good friend of Jere Alexander, former employee of Fulton County Animal Shelter and wife of Tony Self, arrested for transporting fighting dogs?

Blogger vintage  |  12/31/2011 4:10 AM  |  Flag  
Time to update this post as 180 Americans have been killed by Pit Bulls and thousands terribly mauled since the CDC travesty.

Ironically, in this article, Lockwood comes out for heavily regulating wolf-hybrids, yet is opposed to regulations on Pit Bulls. Since 1980, there have been260 Pit Bull fatalities in the US.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=G_laAAAAIBAJ&sjid=4E0NAAAAIBAJ&pg=5212,2521549&dq=ripped+apart+by+dogs&hl=en

Perhaps Lockwood is against wolf-hybrids since he was defeated by one:

"The animal slept in my sleeping bag and appeared friendly but was eventually shot for hunting down and killing a sheep"


We let these people control the public safety debate?!?

Blogger vintage  |  12/31/2011 4:56 AM  |  Flag  
Gail Golab chimes in on responsible dog breeding in this article....

Dogs' breeding and training determine their aggressiveness, said Gail Golab, director of the American Veterinary Medical Association's animal welfare division. For example, Doberman pinschers were once "a big macho kind of dog" but have become more gentle and docile with breeding in recent years, she said.

The same could be done with pit bulls, which include American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, Bull Terriers and mixes of those breeds.


http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/45345337.html


Well...What the hell is the Pit Community waiting for...somebody to be killed?!?

Blogger vintage  |  12/31/2011 5:00 AM  |  Flag  
Nicholas Dodman, a Tufts University animal behavioral specialist and author of “Dogs Behaving Badly,” agrees that pit bulls come with some baggage.

“Genetics does play a role and people who think it doesn’t are kidding themselves,” says Dodman. “The pit bull is notorious for a very hard bite. They are always No. 1 in the lethal dog bite parade. The dog was bred for pit fighting. It was bred to never give up, to bite and hang on.”
http://www.wickedlocal.com/northofboston/x388357482#axzz1fGdhQpOS

Yet...the Vet profession pimps pit bulls..They probably love it when distraught Aunt Milley comes in to have her poodle sewn back together after a Pit attack.

Blogger vintage  |  12/31/2011 5:02 AM  |  Flag  
Another revealing Lockwood snippett...

Testimony of Dr. Peter L. Borchelt, Denver v. Colorado, No. 04CV3756 (Denver Dist. Ct., April 7, 2005). Lockwood also notes, “Dog fighters and advocates of fighting breeds note that, historically, fighting animals that showed aggression to people were generally removed from the gene pool, either by being destroyed or being deemed unsuitable for breeding.... However, there is no indication that the same selective pressures are in operation since there is currently a market for even the most intractable animals in the guard dog trade.” Lockwood, supra note 17 at 133.

Thanks Randy!

http://www.dogsbite.org/forum/index.php?topic=1355.msg11392#msg11392

Blogger vintage  |  12/31/2011 5:05 AM  |  Flag  
Another Vet at the HSUS chimes in before the crazies like Lockwood took over:

Dr Michael Fox, Director of the Institute for the study of Animal Problems, Scientific Branch, Humane Society of the United States:

"I spent 20 years studying the behavior of dogs and it's not in their nature. Man, has created a monster, If you wish...These dogs were selectively bred to fight, they have greater propensity to fight than other animals."

"They can attack people, and because the attitudes of Pit Bulls it is more likely they will attack people. The worry is the power of the dogs jaw...to bite and not let go. It's quite sufficient to crush right through a child's arm or leg."

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=uSotAAAAIBAJ&sjid=-qYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4294,2713042&dq=pit+bulldog+bites+boy+doctor&hl=en

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