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Anonymous Anonymous  |  5/17/2009 11:54 PM  |  Flag  
What worries me are some vets and others who are saying that children are being badly hurt because they haven't been "educated to deal with an attack" or cope when it is happening

Dog bite prevention techniques and coping mechanisms work fine with MOST kinds of dogs.

NOT with pit bulls however.
Because of the high prey drive (among other things) once a pit has decided to attack, it is kill or be killed. The usual tactics (like curling up in the fetal position) do NOT deter a pit. Only a gunshot or some kind of weapon from a good samaritan will stop a pit bull attack.

Pit bulls attack UNPROVOKED. Nothing that any child is doing is inviting pit bull attacks for the most part. Pit bulls attack children because they see them as prey. Prey to KILL, not just bite.

And their body structure has been carefully bred by humans to maximize injury and strength to be most effective during attacks.

We have instances of children waiting for a school bus, standing still, getting hunted down from a pit bull down the street. And many more like this!

NO AMOUNT OF EDUCATION WILL PREVENT OR STOP A PIT BULL ATTACK. Only locked fences that the pit bull cannot scale or dig under, muzzles, and strict regulations for pit bulls will prevent pit bull attacks.

Anonymous FoolMeOnce  |  5/18/2009 11:10 AM  |  Flag  
I agree with you 100%. It does frighten me that so many veterinarians will claim that NO DOG ATTACKS UNPROVOKED. That all dogs give warning signs. That pits are just like any other dogs. I even read a vet quoted as saying, "The only difference between breeds of dogs is the way they look." When I hear/read veterinarians spouting that crap, I suspect that they are drinking the Koolaid.

Anonymous Trigger  |  5/18/2009 1:51 PM  |  Flag  
The AVMA is the central "maker" of the koolaid. Don't forget the "Dos and Don'ts" published by the AVMA Professional Liability Insurance Trust in 1993. Here's just some of what they wrote about pit bulls:
"Uniquely, pit bulls do not show any threatening signs of aggression. Studies on aggression in dogs lead one to conclude that chaining a dog makes the animal more aggressive toward people."

"...Some people reinforce oral commands by clapping their hands. This will get the dog's attention, but it may excite the animal. It may be risky to clap the hands when approached by a pit bull."

"...In Newport News, Virginia, one pit bull was killed by a police officer and another was shot in the shoulder. The dogs had first attacked and bit a boy who was pushing a lawn mower. The remaining injured dog then went after a woman who was riding a bicycle with her husband. An observer watering his lawn clapped his hands to attract the dog's attention. He was attacked."

"Pit bull bites are associated with much greater damage to underlying vessels, nerves, muscles and other tissues. Emergency personnel were held at for at least 25 minutes in Dayton, Ohio, by two pit bulls before the owner arrived. The victim died after he was transported to the hospital."

"Pit bull bites should be considered to be more serious than other dog bites since these animals inflict damage to underlying vessels, nerves and other tissues."

"...In one veterinarian hospital, a pit bull attacked another dog in the waiting room and the owner of the attacked dog had a heart attack."

"Pit bulls, wolves and wolf-hybrids are very capable in opening kennel doors. There are double latches or locks that help prevent dogs from jumping against such devices and opening them. These animals are also able to climb cyclone fencing and scale other enclosures."

"...Pit bulls, however, may not display obvious threatening behavior toward other animals or people. A large vicious dog, pit bull or wolf may be extremely dangerous and it would be difficult to justify such a risk in court. Two veterinarians were sued when a pit bull attacked a 16-year old student who was working as a kennel man. The lawsuit asked $15 million in compensatory damages and $32 million for punitive and other damages."

See excerpts of document:

See full document:

Anonymous Anonymous  |  5/18/2009 4:29 PM  |  Flag  
The AVMA long ago lost any credibility they may have had. They are in bed with every major animal industry lobby, including invasive animal testers and factory farms. They are neither interested in protecting the public interest or animal welfare. All they care about is how to line their own pockets by selling out to the highest bidder and hiding behind the cloak of education.

Anonymous koolaidking  |  5/18/2009 6:57 PM  |  Flag  
The AVMA is also against all spay neuter laws (for all breeds). They have a vested interest in keeping the animal population as high as possible (more animals to treat and to euthanize).

"The AVMA policy on "Dog and Cat Population Control" has been revised to express the Association's nonsupport for regulations or laws mandating spay/neuter of privately owned, nonshelter dogs and cats."

Anonymous Anonymous  |  5/18/2009 8:15 PM  |  Flag  
AVMA supports puppy mills and breeders

They work hand in hand with the AKC, which makes its primary income from puppy mill registrations

Google akc puppy mills

This is why the AVMA supports puppy mills and abuse.

It's all about the money! BLOOD money

Anonymous Anonymous  |  5/19/2009 5:38 AM  |  Flag  
It's becoming clear that the Petcare industry is behaving like the Tobacco and Asbestos industries back in the 50's and

They do not want regulation nor liabilty! They should be putting pressure on the Pit Bull community to breed safer dogs! Scoundrels!!

Anonymous FoolMeOnce  |  5/19/2009 6:38 AM  |  Flag  
I became ill looking at little Ben's "wounds." I checked out the article on dog bite week, and it has this statement:

"If bitten, request proof of rabies vaccination from the dog's owner, get the owner's name and contact information, and contact the dog's veterinarian to check vaccination records. Then immediately consult your doctor. Clean bite wound(s) with soap and water as soon as possible."

It needs an addendum: "In the event of a pit bull mauling, use a tourniquet to prevent any loss of limbs, find any missing body parts and put them on ice, and call a life-flight helicopter!"

Anonymous FoolMeOnce  |  5/19/2009 6:45 AM  |  Flag  
I was very happy to see a comment from a veterinarian that agrees pit bulls are the problem, not just bad owners. Check out the last comment:

There are also comments from Katie Ernst, who was once co-director of Hugabull. Prepare to have your head explode if you read her comments. Note how quickly she turns to insulting and inflammatory language.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  5/20/2009 1:41 PM  |  Flag  
Too bad the USPS still pushes "responsible" ownership instead of preventative laws designed to protect their workers from serious pit bull maulings.

Mail carrier attacked by pit bull suing

MAY 20, 2009 - "Bridgett Burke filed suit against Bridget C. Dorsey, Tina G. Dorsey, Clifford W. Dorsey, Richard T. Phillips and Carole Anne Phillips on Monday in Lorain County Common Pleas Court. Burke alleges she was attacked on the Phillips' 106 California Ave., Lorain, property, where the Dorseys resided, while delivering mail. The pit bull caused Burke injuries, including a permanent scar, the suit stated. She is requesting more than $1 million in punitive damages and $25,000 in compensation for medical expenses."

Anonymous Anonymous  |  5/21/2009 1:00 PM  |  Flag  
"Responsible" is just an empty lobbying word for the AKC. It is meaningless, and that's why they use it. To create fuzziness and vagueness so they can keep doing what they are doing

AKC makes most of its money from puppy mill registrations. If AKC cared about "responsibility" then they would not be anywhere near the puppy mill business.

AKC supports chaining dogs outdoors 24/7. Sound responsible?

AKC supports breeders being able to kill their own stock any way they want, without requiring veterinarian administered euthanasia.

Most AKC breeders also don't report or pay taxes on their breeding income, which they are supposed to do by IRS and state laws. Not too responsible!

What AKC means by responsible is "no laws" so they can keep being irresponsible.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  5/23/2009 4:48 AM  |  Flag  
The other thing the AKC wants is a tax payer funded multi-billion dollar Aniaml Control infrastructure used to clean up their "product".

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