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Blogger Dayna Hamilton  |  9/20/2016 1:01 PM  |  Flag  
I imagine this type of stuff goes on at almost every shelter in the country these days. But wow! Eye opening. I'll stick to adopting greyhounds off the track, I know what I'm getting, plus the greyhound people are great at matching you with a low prey-drive grey if that is what you desire. As we have cats and children, and neighbors with small dogs, that is what we desire. It will be interesting to see when the tipping point occurs, when shelters are held accountable for adopting out known dangerous pits. That day is coming.

Blogger Your Quiet Neighbor  |  9/20/2016 1:11 PM  |  Flag  
Two words: Shelters lie.

Blogger Ka D  |  9/20/2016 5:48 PM  |  Flag  
People who in any way support this need to go to jail, period. This IS unlawful. "Civil liability will result from adopting out a dog that is known to be dangerous, is known to have dangerous propensities, or is misrepresented as being safe when the transferor has no reasonable basis to make that representation. A dog known to be dangerous or vicious must be put down or cured of its potentially injurious tendency." https://dogbitelaw.com/adoption-organization-liability-for-dog-bites/the-legal-duties-of-a-transferor

Blogger Michelle Prater  |  9/20/2016 8:25 PM  |  Flag  
Very, very horrible. Why can't all of these dogs be tracked even across county and state lines? Full disclosure attached to chip. What's hard about that? One of these dogs pictured above, looks like the dog that attacked my mother. The time line would fit. Hum... how would we ever know? How could we find out if we really wanted to know? I doubt there's a way. But what if? This is why all records should be attached to their chip number.

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  9/21/2016 11:20 AM  |  Flag  
Michelle, we would likely never know. The number of hands these dogs can pass through, shelter to foster to foster to rescue to transporter to rescue to foster then winds up 3 or many more states away at another open admission shelter. When a dog crosses over state lines, very seldom does its history (previous bites) travel with it. The transporting of unwanted dogs (many with behavioral problems) across the country is unregulated. Some states are starting to crack down due to rabies and infectious diseases being spread. This example is interesting in Massachusetts, "Cannot and will not accept aggressive animals or pets with bite histories" and "No pit bulls please we have plenty of our own." But by the third or fourth rescue or adopter (or three states later), who would know? A chip does have owner information, but like Amos Moses above, which previously lived in Nevada, was fully missing for 5-years before winding up at the Sonoma County shelter. Who knows how many hands the dog passed through during that time (and how many other cats it killed?)

As to another person, testing whether or not to leave a comment, all comments are moderated. Just asking the question, "Can I comment?" Is not leaving a comment. Please leave an actual comment and we will be happy to post it.

Blogger Bailey  |  9/21/2016 7:35 PM  |  Flag  
Your Quiet Neighbor nailed it. Sugarcoating a dog's issue's/failing to mention them at all is nothing other than lying and misleading to the buyers. But honestly, all the cover up expressions they use are pretty obvious. "I shouldn't live with kitties." Potential cat killer essentially. "I should be the only dog in the home." Most likely attacks other dogs regardless of if they live in your home or not. "I do best with older children". Probably stalks and chases children like prey.

And this is just me, but I don't think dogs that are "no other dogs, no cats, and ESPECIALLY no kids" dogs should be allowed in public period, because there is just no way to avoid these things these days unless you literally live in the middle of no where. I'll never even understand who'd want a dog with that description anyway. Even if you don't have kids, cats, or other dogs, why even take that chance that someone else's could be hurt by your dog.

Blogger Packhorse  |  9/22/2016 8:17 AM  |  Flag  
Another tip: "doesn't get along with" in reference to dogs, should be read as "attacks/kills."

"Returned to shelter because he didn't get along with the owner's cat...he needs a cat-free home, please." = "Returned to shelter because he killed the owner's cat, and will most likely kill yours."

"She doesn't get along with other dogs...she needs to be the only dog in your home." = "She has attacks other dogs, and will continue this behavior."

"He doesn't get along with other male dogs, but may get along with some females." = "So far, he has attacked only male dogs. We haven't personally seen him try to kill a female yet."

OpenID joelande  |  9/22/2016 9:00 AM  |  Flag  
No Kill is not only a fraud, but it is animal and people abuse. Everyone should be working to destroy No Kill if it has infested their local shelters.

No Kill was taken over by the breeders so they could pretend there was no overpopulation problem and pretend that they were not overbreeding. A game to cover up the crimes of the for-profit animal trade.

After pit bull advocacy did nothing but expand the numbers of breeders and dog fighters, No Kill now gets into the game to further the abuse and cruelty. And pretend that nothing is wrong.

Until the overbreeding problem is solved, and the lack of breeder regulation and accountability resolved, No Kill is impossible and is causing harm to all. A TOTAL FRAUD

Blogger Christy D  |  9/23/2016 5:58 AM  |  Flag  
Wow. All those cases above, I swear the dogs' posted profile sound exactly like ones I read in my state of PA. Also like they keep regurgitating them all over the country. That or some self proclaimed put expert has written a guide on how to write a softened description on how the market these dogs.

Blogger Your Quiet Neighbor  |  9/23/2016 7:34 AM  |  Flag  
Two more words: Deceptive advertising.

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  9/23/2016 10:00 AM  |  Flag  
It is very true. Someone sent a few in from Maricopa County last night.

"I will do best in a home with adults only simply due to my over-zealous play style."

"My family decided to surrender me for reasons I will never I understand."

"He is good with kids, but can be a little mouthy if he gets excited"

The other disturbing part of examining the files is not knowing how many of the adopters quickly or eventually rehomed the dogs through different parties, never contacting the shelter due to guilt (or sense of failure). Very few people are equipped to handle problem dogs, in this case all of them powerful breeds. It is not safe nor is it compassionate to continue to shuffle these dogs from temporary home-to-home back to a new shelter and more, each time setting the dog up for failure.

Blogger Drew Dowdy  |  9/23/2016 10:22 AM  |  Flag  
Our animal shelter advertises many pit bulls as labs.

Blogger Christy D  |  9/23/2016 7:22 PM  |  Flag  
The shelter where we got our cat charges $500 if you return an adopted animal for any reason and you have to sign a contract agreeing to that. As above, they likely take them to another shelter when it doesn't work out.

Blogger Your Quiet Neighbor  |  9/24/2016 5:33 AM  |  Flag  
It's time for a website like the Mail Talk Manual. It would be a reference library for the deceptive rhetoric used by shelters and rescues.

Here's my contribution: Homeless pets. Which is a pity-pot way of saying "pit bulls."

Blogger nlbchi  |  9/24/2016 9:13 AM  |  Flag  
People re-homing dogs on craigslist have taken the cue from shelters and rescues. I see a lot of "dog selective" and "dog reactive" descriptions. I even see it with other breeds not just pit bulls. I don't understand why so many dogs are dog aggressive now.
We just had a shooting outside of a coffee shop in Portland because of two pits that attacked a Burmese Mt dog. The owner of the Burmese shot and killed one of the pits to save his dog. People are leaving flowers on the sidewalk for the poor wiggle butt! It was on the local news last night and all they did was talk to a lawyer about whether or not the shooter would get into trouble. No questions about why the aggressive dogs were out around other animals and not controlled by their owner. They didn't even mention whether or not the beasts were on leashes. Anyway, these are the types who buy or adopt dog aggressive dogs.
The Humane Society of SW Washington (which serves the area of Vancouver just North of Portland) advertises a group of dogs with a special adoption price of $50 because they have to go to a home with no other animals. One is described as being able to escape a kennel with a lid and 6 foot privacy fence. They advise the adopter must only take the dog out on leash. As if someone is really going to take them out on a leash every single time they need to go to the bathroom. And who knows if that dog can be held with a leash anyway.

Blogger B Cazz  |  9/26/2016 9:55 PM  |  Flag  
These "Humane Society" directors, employees and volunteers should be forced to watch the autopsies of victims of dog maulings.

Blogger B Cazz  |  9/27/2016 10:04 AM  |  Flag  
What they are doing is outright fraud and SHOULD be a crime. It's up to us to pressure our law makers to make it one.

Blogger Garnet  |  9/30/2016 11:05 PM  |  Flag  
What I find annoying about a lot of dog people is that they often think anyone who doesn't get their dog from a shelter or rescue is some sort of evil person. The problem is - if shelters are going to be this dishonest, then why should people go to shelters? Personally, I don't want a dog that I have to worry is going to attack people or other animals.

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