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25 thoughts on “The Vicious and Dangerous Dog Hearing of Max, a High Prey Drive Husky in San Francisco, and the Statement of Decision

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  1. Amazing they were able to track down the owner and get them to a trial. Even more amazing is the decision to put the dog down! Thank goodness the judge made the right call.

  2. Really excellent, comprehensive summary of the case and ruling!

    But you definitely need to get a new videographer. 😉

  3. I’m surprise they actually put the dog down.I feel sorry for the little girl who have lifelong scar but at least they got justice for their baby.now if they do the same thing for and put down those pitbull who bit innocent people.

  4. I personally don’t know why this case went as far as it did.
    Couldn’t the owner have stopped his dog’s bad behavior?

    The GSD of a friend was destroyed for multiple dog bites. She could not understand what stopping the biting meant. She had had him neutered, and that didn’t stop him.

    • An owner must first want to stop a dog’s bad behavior. They must see it as a problem to others or outside a cultural norm. Based on the male owner’s casual response of sitting down and finishing a beer, I doubt if he thinks this is a problem. Also, in the USA, attacking a human toddler is horrifying, but perhaps not in the owner’s country of origin. Dogs running at large is most likely the owners’ view of how the world is.

      • What is unclear to me is the vax record date. The vax, microchip, and neuter happened during the same vet appointment at the SF SPCA sometime in 2023. Did the attack on Ajaxx in the lobby (May 2023) prompt the owners to neuter? If so, there would be some knowledge the owners were concerned with his dog-to-dog aggression (They also said they continued to take Max to the dog park after both attacks using a muzzle). DeHaven said he was told after the lobby attack by the doctor that his dog only survived because he is weightier/thicker than Max expected. “Max actually couldn’t pick him up and shake him to break his neck.” Anyway, and potentially lost in translation, it was not clear to me if both attacks occurred after neutering.

        • The nonsense that neutering will stop dog aggression is patently ludicrous. Vets, rescuers and others that spread this dangerous nonsense need to stop spreading it.

          While neutering a male dog cuts down its testosterone and may lead to less dog fights from fighting over females or for dominance, humping and generally cut down the amount of snaps and bites when someone intervenes in those behaviors, it’s not some magical cure-all for aggression.

          A big husky attacking a little pipsqueak dog isn’t a matter of fighting over maleness or the local poodle in heat. A big dog can stomp on a small dog or smack it away if it’s annoying and *they know it*. They were taught that as puppies and if they don’t know it–they’ve had a deprived puppyhood and that’s not fixable. It’s a sign of viciousness or unmanageable prey drive.

          Taking a dog to a dog park with a muzzle after an attack is one of the stupidest responses I can think of. Now you have a super-frustrated dog that *still* isn’t trained to ignore distractions and other dogs while remaining calm. And as for so-called “counter-conditioning” and waving treats around hoping to fix an underlying aggression problem–well, I don’t even know where to begin with that.

          One of the dumbest things I see posted is that dogs need “socialization” blah blah blah. If a puppy isn’t “socialized” by the time you get it at 10+weeks–it’s not going to happen. Dogs do not “need” to “play” with other dogs. If they have dog friends or are sociable by nature–great. Some aren’t and never will be. Teaching them to ignore other dogs while following instructions is a far more useful endeavor.

          It’s too bad someone didn’t bother to inform the first fellow that he had the right (and obligation) to file a dangerous dog report.

          A child would still be alive if they had.

          • “The nonsense that neutering will stop dog aggression is patently ludicrous.” That was also part of my thought. What did the SF SPCA tell them? “Taking a dog to a dog park with a muzzle after an attack is one of the stupidest responses I can think of.” You mean after two attacks, the senior dog and the child. Also, this child survived. We did look at the SF city website. It is clear how to file a VIDD report. DeHaven didn’t see the attack — recall he refused to watch the video prior to the hearing. Had he seen the video and been informed about the VIDD report, it seems he certainly would have done so. Finally, neutering/spaying, in terms of the VIDD hearing officer, is primarily a matter for the record. The Statement of Decision always includes this information. It’s not the same context as “vets, rescuers and others that spread this dangerous nonsense.”

          • Correction:

            Just watched the video. The child was bitten severely, not killed.

            That said, the fact two people chased that dog around instead of just yelling “down” or even, yelling “down” and having the dog drop *as soon* as it began to run off…shows why training, matters.

            This owner failed the other dog owner, failed the child and failed his own dog. Since nobody in their right mind would now want that dog–euthanasia was the only option.

        • Their testimony was vague and evasive – I’m not convinced that they used that muzzle at the dog park.

          Also, those dimwits were cruel to keep a husky in an apartment.

  5. I live in San Francisco and I’m grateful to learn about these resources. They’re saying they would welcome me reporting it if a dog were to lunge at me. I appreciate that.

  6. At the State vet meeting, there has commonly been a federal poster from the AVMA. This stuff annoys me. They decided that all intact males regardless of species are dangerous. This is based on the idea that many intact farm animals are aggressive. A billy goat is dangerous because he will come to you to put stinky goat stuff on you.

    A GSD should be able to herd with testicles
    present. Some stallions are aggressive. Some aren’t.

  7. Poor child! I hope he has a good outcome. I’m glad the hearing officer decide to euthanize the child grabber. So many things wrong here. Idiot owners with no clue about their breed and the dangerous nature of their dog. Not caring about the injured child. At the hearing, caring more about the stupid dog than the child. The Nanny? Not calling 911. Not calling police to report. Not agreeing to testify. I wonder why?

  8. Just for clarification, we submitted a FOIA for the vax/neuter date records. Max was neutered on November 25, 2022, around the age of 10-12 months old. Both attacks occurred afterward, a year apart (05/13/2023 and 05/22/2024).

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