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Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/22/2009 10:01 PM  |  Flag


"He said the boy’s mother stood on the porch and screamed, “The dog got the baby by the head, by the head!”

Baumgartner said the child’s father appeared to be in shock and couldn’t say anything.

Neighbors said the dog was named Prince.

“It was a mean dog,” neighbor Keith Ferszt, 36.

Baumgartner called the couple “real good people. They watched that kid like a hawk. I can’t believe that dog got near that child.”

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 12:51 AM  |  Flag  
What kind of "real good people" get a pit bull to have around children?

The best you can say about this is at least a poor neighbor's child didn't pay the price

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 1:04 AM  |  Flag  
The article said the couple struggled for a long time to have children and didn't think they'd be able to. If I wanted a child that badly and was blessed with a so-called miracle child, the last thing I'd have around it is a pit bull. I'm sorry for the innocent child who was killed in such a horrible way, but I have to second the sentiment that at least it was the owners' child and not a neighbor's. They gambled, and they lost.

Anonymous David  |  4/23/2009 6:40 AM  |  Flag  
Many people have been led to beleive these dogs are great around children, nanny dogs. It's to bad our government doesn't require schooling for ownership of these dogs. Had these people been through a class, would they still have had this dog as part of their household ?

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 7:39 AM  |  Flag  
This reminds me of a fatality we had in Texas in 2004. A rottweiler bit a baby on the head killing it. The parents then FOUGHT THE COUNTY to keep the dog alive. Having a pit or a rott in the home with a small child should be grounds for CPS to intervene. Some people are too stupid to take care of their children.

Blogger Honesty Helps  |  4/23/2009 8:30 AM  |  Flag  
As long as we are being told that pits are good family members and HSUS is being called murderers for their stance on pits, we will have people who believe the pit is a wonderful family dog.

I would like to see someone make it a child endangerment issue and parents would have the book thrown at them if they have a pit that attacks their children. I was told that this won't happen because it would mean more children in foster care if their parents go to jail. And most of the time, the dog gets blamed and people feel sorry for the parents. The dog should have known better, not the parents. If a parent puts a baby in a tub of water and walks away, would they not charge that parent with the child's death? Of course, but not so much when the "family pet" kills the child, it becomes the dog's fault. We all know that dogs have morals and ethics, don't we?

Anonymous Dude I Bagger Ur Pit  |  4/23/2009 12:01 PM  |  Flag  
This is the cost of buying into the "Nanny Dog" myth. A dead child is the result of believing "pit bulls are just like any other dog, it's all in how you raise them," or, "if they are properly socialized..."

The cost of failure when trying to "properly socialize" a pit bull is too high.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 1:55 PM  |  Flag  
"The cost of failure when trying to 'properly socialize' a pit bull is too high."

You hit the nail on the head. Of course there are pit bulls out there who have never attacked anyone. That's akin to saying a hurricane has never hit my beach house. It's no guarantee it won't, and if I can't afford the insurance, I'm an idiot for living there. Nobody can afford the risk of a pit bull. The price paid is much, much too high.

Anonymous annod  |  4/23/2009 2:14 PM  |  Flag

An uncle of an Eastpointe boy who was mauled to death Wednesday by the family pit bull urged parents to “get rid” of pit bulls so they or their children don’t become the next victim of a fatal attack.

“There’s no good to come out of these dogs,” Terrence Lovejoy said today during a news conference at the Eastpointe police station. “It does not have to happen to anyone else.”

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 3:54 PM  |  Flag  
And the dog was not licensed. Who didn't see that one coming...

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 4:05 PM  |  Flag  
I think the people who are calling these dogs nanny dogs, saying they are just like any other breed, saying they just need love, and telling all these lies about pit bulls being ok need to be HELD ACCOUNTABLE

Best Friends and Bad Rap, AKC and the breeders, and the rest need to be held accountable for the lies they are telling.

If a company told such lies and gave such "guarantees" they would be bankrupted by lawsuits.

Since these groups either are businesses (like the breeders) or acting as businesses, they need to be held accountable

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 4:35 PM  |  Flag  
Another pit bull raised lovingly from a young age that just SNAPPED

More proof it is NOT "just the owner's fault."

THESE DOGS ARE FLAWED no matter how they are raised

Anonymous MamaDog  |  4/23/2009 6:49 PM  |  Flag  
"Watching a child like a hawk" isn't good enough when a pit bull is involved. Particularly a pit bull that required 8 bullets to kill it and a "Beware of Dog" sign to be hung on the fence.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 11:56 PM  |  Flag  
When asked about the couple, he called them "really nice people" and said, "They took care of the baby like a little king. And they took care of that dog, too."

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/24/2009 12:16 AM  |  Flag  
Shot 8 times with a .45 caliber? Does everyone here understand how powerful this weapon is? It's insane that it would take that many bullets from this gun to kill a dog.

Anonymous FoolMeOnce  |  4/24/2009 6:37 AM  |  Flag  
Yes, it is insane that it took that many shots! Here is how a pitnut Pit Rescue whitewashes this trait:

"However, pit bulls do seem to have an above average amount of determination for things they are interested in. In fact, they were selectively bred to never give up. Their focus may be barking at squirrels, fetching rocks or sticks, but whatever they do, it's done with a great deal of enthusiasm. If they happen to grab onto something they don't want to release, it can be quite difficult to extract it from them. "

Absolutely disgusting! I truly feel sorry for these parents. It definitely sounds like they were not abusing this dog. Their canine IED finally went off, and they are paying a terrible horrible price. I commend the uncle for speaking out against owning these beasts.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/24/2009 7:02 AM  |  Flag  
Tough to believe this was a safety issue was unknown to this family...

Last August Robert, Howard was killed by Pit Bulls on the streets of Detroit maul city.

The casket filling operations have to stop!

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/24/2009 7:07 AM  |  Flag  
Enter now the question:

Who bred and sold this Level 6 mauler and where are his littermates?

What is the responsible Pit Bull community going to do about them? Wait until they are identified by the LifeFlight Helicopters taking off?

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/24/2009 1:21 PM  |  Flag  
It's entirely possible it didn't take 8 shots to stop or kill the dog. When adrenaline hits, a person will often fire more shots than needed to do the job. I know if a kid of mine were being mauled by a dog, I'd empty the magazine into the thing in a heartbeat, assuming I had a clear shot and wasn't afraid I'd hit my child. Please don't construe this comment as a defense of the pit bull. It's not in any way. I'm just not sure the dog wasn't dead before the man stopped firing.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/24/2009 4:23 PM  |  Flag  
So, it was OK to have this dangerous dog, when the family assumed he ONLY posed a risk to the innocent neighbors.....evidenced by the "Beware of Dog" sign, and the one neighbor who let slip that the dog was "mean". I am sure the neighbors feel terrible for the family's loss, and are NOT being vocal about what they really thought about the dog.

I guess the age old concept of "do unto others" really has hit home. The family owned a dangerous dog, but felt it was OK as long as the dog was good with them. They paid the ultimate price for not "loving thy neighbors as thyself".

As the above posters pointed out, its a terrible tragedy for the child, but it would be far worse had it been a neighbors child.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/24/2009 5:19 PM  |  Flag  

Exactly what kind of "protection" did this home need? Couldn't just about any dog provide such a warning service?

So sad.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/25/2009 2:28 PM  |  Flag  
They are considering bringing charges against the family. I think they should. I think whenever a child is mauled or killed by a family dog of a known aggressive breed, the owners should be charged with child endangerment. There are enough cases, and there is enough evidence that these dogs are more dangerous than the average dog to make a strong case for that. See how quickly the rescues back off their "nanny dog" stance when pit owners start getting arrested for having them in the house with children.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/25/2009 4:03 PM  |  Flag  
If the dog was "rescued" from a shelter, that should be made public. Unfortunately, there are virtually no real journalists left today who would ask such a common sense question...

Where did the killer dog come from?

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/25/2009 9:00 PM  |  Flag  

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/26/2009 5:57 AM  |  Flag  

It turns out that "FEASTPOINTE" had Pit Bull regulations and were duped into rescinding them.

Tha Law can still be viewed the city website:

Can you say CULPABILTY!!!

BTW...The family is raising donations to cover funeral costs. I suggest City council members donate. As is customary not a dime will come from the Pit Bull community.

Blogger Honesty Helps  |  4/26/2009 9:26 AM  |  Flag  
WHERE DID THIS DOG COME FROM, is the question that needs to be asked every time, as well as reproductive status. In my investigations, I find that almost every case is from an unaltered dog. There are exceptions of course. And having this info can go a long way to convince officials to support altering.

BUT to know where these dogs are coming from is even more important. With this "No Kill" crap shelters feel pushed to adopt out dogs they might not otherwise. Is it their fault, yes and no. If they do what they think is right to euthanize a healthy pit then they are condemned. I would like to invite people to approach their shelters and ask them if they can keep records, unofficially or officially, on these two questions.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/26/2009 5:43 PM  |  Flag  
Are you sure the law was rescinded? Where did you find this info?

Anonymous Trigger  |  4/26/2009 9:22 PM  |  Flag  
I have found no confirmation as to the rumors of Eastpointe's code -- which declares pit bulls as "vicious" -- has been repealed. Section 610-11, if still valid, basically seals the case shut as to the negligence of these parents. The code is crystal clear:
(4) "Vicious dog" is defined as follows:

A. "Vicious dog" means a dog that, without provocation, and subject to paragraph (a)(4)B. hereof, meets any of the following requirements:

1. Has killed or caused serious injury to any person;
2. Has caused injury, other than killing or serious injury, to any person, or has killed another dog or domestic animal; or
3. Belongs to a breed that is commonly known as a pit bull dog. The ownership, keeping or harboring of such a breed of dog shall be prima-facie evidence of the ownership, keeping or harboring of a vicious dog.

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