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12 thoughts on “Jayce’s Law Has Hearing: Powerful Testimony by Charleston Humane Society and Mother of Boy Killed by Stray Pit Bull

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  1. People who are in favor of allowing predictably and/or unpredictably aggressive canine breeds to have unfettered ability to continue to maim hundreds of thousands of victims every short period of time: These are evil people. How to tell? By their evil works. The animals that they make mega bucks off of are worse than wild animals. They are worse than wild animals. Any attempt to reduce the ghoulish horror of aggressive canine attack is met with the anti-good actions of the very powerful, mega dollar funded Dangerous Breed Industry (DBI). When will the victims of the evil-based DBI take to the streets and demand reasonable legislation that will reduce the huge amount of unspeakable horror that strikes on our streets, in our homes and everywhere except inside church buildings? The only places that we are sometimes semi-safe in is in our own closed bathrooms/bedrooms, in our own automobiles and in a church building. Anyone who steps out of their bedroom/bathroom to open their front door is opening the door to unreasonably elevated risk of grave threat of a dangerous breed canine suddenly destroying their life. Anyone who steps out of their bedroom/bathroom into that residence where a dangerous breed canine is present is opening the door to the unreasonably elevated risk of grave threat of a dangerous breed canine suddenly destroying their life. All of this happens hundreds of thousands of times in the USA in what time period? Every few months? What can change as long as our evil society worships the all powerful dangerous Dog instead of the all powerful provident Go(o)d?

  2. I enjoyed hearing the South Carolina man brush off AKC, AFF and BFAS as irrelevant and shouldn’t get to speak (and they didn’t speak).

  3. Quoting from the post:

    The Big Three: American Kennel Club (AKC) and Animal Farm Foundation, both New York-based and Best Friends Animal Society, Utah-based.

    To which I say:

    I don’t know if the Animal Farm Foundation or the AKC take donations, but I do know that Best Friends does. They used to pummel my mother with fundraising mail. Before she died, I put a stop to that garbage.

    If anyone reading this still donates to Best Friends, stop. Give to DBO instead. There’s a “donate” button on every page of this site.

  4. $25 is not a deterrent. It’s a gift.

    There’s no statistical evidence that a neutered dog is not as dangerous as an intact dog. Several Nordic countries do not allow spay/neuter–they *do* however hold owners accountable for their dogs’ behaviours including breeding.

    There’s zero proof that pitbulls other than those specifically bred and used for fighting dogs, are any more abused than any other breed.

    As long as the money for these pitbull cultists keeps rocketing down the train there will never be an end to this.

    The excuses need to end.

  5. I don’t know… I was confused by all of the testimony since it was all over the place. The two women who went last made the most sense. Overall, it seemed like there were too many agendas that I had to pull teeth to connect them to a $25 fee. The first guy’s testimony was the most ridiculous, pulling out photos of his pit bull and talking about it being a majestic breed. As much as I can’t stand these dogs, if I were a representative of the people I would vote against this because it just doesn’t make sense and it is not enforcable.

    • It’s next to impossible to get any type of Breed Specific Legislation passed in this political climate. If this bill passes, it will be a huge VICTORY! We can build on the foundation of this bill. Pit bull breeding is costing taxpayers money for the surrendered pit bulls at shelters. SC should be able to recoup the cost by having fees for pit bull breeders.  SC shelters are tired of dealing with the overpopulation of high-liability pit bulls and want to solve the problem by curtailing pit bull breeding. I applauded South Carolina for wanting to solve the problem by curtailing pit bull breeding. South Carolina’s bill sets a precedent for other states to follow.

       I love Joe Elmore’s testimony.  Yes, he had a pit bull as a pet. He was trying to prove that he does not hate pit bulls. This was a strategy to try to get this bill passed. He really stuck it to the big lobby outsiders: Best Friends Animal Society, Animal Farm Foundation and American Kennel Club. Then he drove it home by using all SC stats.  

      • When we make selling pitbulls illegal (which it is in some BSL legislation) and subject to huge fines (followed by jail terms) this will end. Take away the profit motive and the whole pitbull house of cards, collapses.

        It’s the simplest solution to enforce, as well.

        Will probably never happen but until we treat pitbulls like the dangerous weapons they are and allow people to profit from their sale, I can’t see this problem going away any time soon because we are far past the deliberation of niceties.

    • Where I live, pitbull spay and neuter is free for anyone who does it through the various shelters. This has not provided any incentive for people to have them in the inner city to have them sterilized. Of course, all the ones living in the suburbs and white-collar homes are fixed since most of them are purchased at the shelters.

      I fail to see how a $25 fee for fertile pit bulls will be enforced, especially considering that there is a carved-out exception for “breeders.” There is money to be made off of breeding a bitch every heat cycle and trust me, these “breeders” know how to get 3 heats per year. I am thinking about the South Carolinian sister of a man I dated over 20 years ago. She was breeding pits for pulling and appearance/beefiness competitions. When I met her on my one and only visit to her trailer in the middle of nowhere SC her 2-year-old bitch was weaning her 4th litter. Does anyone actually believe a person like this will stop breeding pits?

      • Dogs can easily raise two litters per year. In that there must be a minimum of four months between litters, a bitch cannot possibly produce an average of three litters per year every year. It’s not uncommon for bitches to cycle at five month intervals. Six months is more the average, and some don’t cycle nearly that often.

        I know of a GSD bitch delivering three litters per year for several years. She once was rebred while nursing a ten week old puppy and had another litter. This actually proved what we know. Bitches require at least four months for the uterus to completely return to normal. A very few could recycle at just under four month intervals. The bitch I mentioned above raised one puppy per litter for a total of three puppies per year. This could easily have led to a pyometra.

        Veterinarians don’t have safe effective medications to cause dogs to cycle more frequently. How could breeders have anything any better?

        Suppose the two year old bitch had whelped four litters. She whelped a litter at eight months, one at twelve months, a third at sixteen months, and a fourth at twenty months.
        Then a fifth at 24 months.
        However, this kind of extremely fast cycling is incredibly unlikely. Pit bull bitches are known to be escape artists and usually are bred every cycle.

        Breeders usually make little money breeding dogs. Consider facilities, vaccinations, vet care, deworming, C-sections, advertising, cost of training and dog shows.
        stud fees, cost of buying breeding dogs, cost of going to dog shows, cost of losing dogs, euthanasia, etc. I know I don’t know what other breeders’ expenses actually are, and I know no one has those figures unless they’re paying the bills or filing the taxes.

        I believe the biggest income on pit bulls is from betting on fights
        The dogs themselves are mostly worthless. If they don’t win, they are worthless.

        If pit bulls were valuable, they wouldn’t be dumped in shelters.

        Many litters of puppies die. That’s not profitable.
        Many pitties are sold very cheaply, as they aren’t worth much.

        Although I’m certainly against all pit bull breeding, pit bulls would stand a far better chance at life if they were expensive dogs.

        Also, unless the rules have changed, one cannot show wolfdogs in AKC in any performance events. I think pit bulls are allowed.

        Designer bullies such as toad lines are very expensive, generally require C-sections, and are very short lived.

  6. If this is to be used as a “wedge legislation” to kick the door open to BSL legislation, I can see the use of it.

    If this law is supposed to be a deterrent or “happy medium” solution I think it will be sadly underwhelming in terms of how much actual impact it will make in the next decade to stop the destructiveness caused by pitbulls.

  7. As a retired veterinary technician of almost 20 , from personal and professional experience with MANY UNALTERED BREEDS, I can tell you that altering a dog does little to nothing as far as temperament.
    The BREED certainly counts for it.
    We have euthanized many “ altered “ PITBULLS for idiopathic aggression.

  8. I wish all pit bulls would be euthanized.
    I just learned all this a few days ago. I believed all the lies.. I had friends with pits, while I wasn’t always comfortable around them, I believed the propaganda and ignored my gut feeling. I was a young teen (12-13) at the time. I remember the dogs getting in a fight once. I slept over at that house on a few occasions. I’m so glad I was never hurt, statistically it would not have been unlikely.
    Now I’m 23 with a baby, almost 1, and live in a place with a high dog, and specifically pit, population. I’m so glad I learned all of this before it was too late.

    I have defended the dogs online before, never anything as awful as commenting to people who had been victimized, but just in general when I heard popular Podcasters say something against the breed(s).. like clockwork I hit every propaganda point without even knowing:
    •Nanny dogs
    •It’s not the dog, it’s the owner
    •Don’t blame all for the actions of a few
    •Buy from responsible breeders and lineage
    •Get them trained professionally..
    All of it…

    I never knew.. I never knew it was like this.. I heard “oh they bite more”
    I thought “so what, my husband was bit in the face by a dog as a kid, it just snapped at him and split his lip, never had any lasting trauma and barely has a scar”
    I thought “I’ve seen dog bites, it’s not that bad”

    We ought to be particular with our language, what these dogs do.. this isn’t a bite. I’ve SEEN dog bites, this is something different.

    I understand that we can’t just euthanize them all, I’ve found myself wondering why we can’t deteeth them all, the damage would be less, and they would get to eat soft food every day of their life.
    I have a dog, a miniature pinscher mix, she loves soft food, it’s a treat, we buy it to spoil her. The pits would be spoiled their whole life and their potential damage could be greatly reduced. But no pit lover would go for this, I know it in my gut.

    So I find myself wondering why:
    •Why are people intent on keeping dogs that cause so much damage?
    •Why do people keep their murderous mutts even after they’ve maimed or even killed a family memeber?
    •Why do organizations want to continuously and repeatedly put known vicious dogs back into innocent and ignorant peoples’ homes?

    Just why?? Why can people look at all the same information I have over the past few days and still say “oh it’s just a freak accident,” “don’t blame the breed blame the deed,” and the one that irks me the most “well, all dogs bite”???
    It’s scary.

    I’m sorry to all the victims, if any, that ever saw an anonynous comment I left who might have felt revictimized by my defending what was essentially the potential perpetration of their attack. I say this not to virtue signal, but because after seeing what these dogs do I am genuinely horrified at myself for ever having defended them. I am horrified at the way people constantly revictimize victims for the sake of ideology. I am horrified by all of it; and I am horrified that I took part in it, no matter how small.

    Colleen, thank you so SO much for making this website. You are brave, not in the way the word gets thrown around meaninglessly in our culture today, but actually, genuinely brave and strong spirited.
    I admire your tenacity and I can’t express the depth of my appreciation towards you for running this site. For helping me be mentally prepared for the reality of the area I live in with my daughter. For bravely exposing the truth and horrors of these occurences despite what you’ve been through. And most of all for really standing up against BIG LOBBIES for the truth and well being of others.

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