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Blogger P.  |  7/22/2010 3:30 PM  |  Flag  
The State of California did it's citizens an injustice by passing a law forbiding BSL. Wonder if Ar-nold is aware of this?

Blogger cravendesires  |  7/22/2010 3:43 PM  |  Flag  
ditto P

OpenID trigger770  |  7/22/2010 3:50 PM  |  Flag  
Undoubtably another pit nutter family that "swears" by their pit bulls. Probably lots of photos in the house of babies and pit bulls. Five dogs means they were breeding, God knows there can never be enough pit bulls to go around. I am thoroughly disgusted at the number of California toddlers getting annihilated by "pet" family pit bulls.

Blogger cravendesires  |  7/22/2010 9:17 PM  |  Flag  
i hope the charges are increased.

the PBF nutters have expressed their condolences.

"The step-grandfather has been arrested for child endangerment.

The toddler and the dogs all pay the ultimate price for his irresponsibility."

good one heartbullies

OpenID trigger770  |  7/22/2010 9:33 PM  |  Flag  
OMG! There are already 572 comments on the SFGate story!

OpenID trigger770  |  7/22/2010 9:37 PM  |  Flag  

whonew said: 6:59 PM on July 22, 2010
I have a crocodile at home, he is very friendly and loves children. There are two in his belly right now. Please do not consider all crocodiles to be bad, some are bad and they unfortunately ruin the reputation of the others.
Please give a crocodile a good home.

Blogger Dark  |  7/23/2010 6:57 AM  |  Flag  
Who in their right mind keeps dogs in their freakin' garage? Oh, wait, pit nutter. Disregard the first part of that sentence.

I'm glad they're filing criminal charges, but they're not severe enough. Homicide charges, please. Whenever these dogs kill, that's exactly what it is, homicide by canine.

Blogger ItsATragedy  |  7/23/2010 7:40 AM  |  Flag  
"The State of California did it's citizens an injustice by passing a law forbiding BSL. Wonder if Ar-nold is aware of this?"

It was my understanding that the governor lifted this BSL ban (which the dog fighters and pit bull breeders created and had put into law) or was it just for San Francisco so they could have mandatory spay neuter of pit bulls (which has been a huge success, for people and pit bulls)

BSL means that breeders have to be licensed, and the breeders, particularly the dog fighter breeders, of course don't want to be law-abiding and licensed because they are committing tax evasion at the least and federal crimes at the worst.

That's why they oppose BSL and licensing, and puppy mill regulation too.

Dog breeding, especially pit bull breeding, is one of the most criminal enterprises in the country, in so many ways. It is sad that some legislators help them.

Blogger ItsATragedy  |  7/23/2010 7:45 AM  |  Flag  
"Who in their right mind keeps dogs in their freakin' garage? "

There are so many reasons.

One is that breeders hide their breeding operations, and also are breaking zoning laws, etc., so the dogs get secreted.

On a California theme, there is a strong Hawaii-California dog fighting breeding connection. Breeders shipping dogs back and forth.

OpenID trigger770  |  7/23/2010 7:57 AM  |  Flag  
Bad Rap of the Bay Area is advising pit bull advocates to say "nothing" to reporters!
It's unreasonable and unwise to comment on dog-related cases while investigators are still trying to decipher who/what/why. Some things we do know: The media is not a reliable source of information on dog breeds or the circumstances surrounding dog attacks. And since stories change constantly, what seems apparent today will have shifted ten times by next week.

Contra Costa will no doubt be adopting a pit bull spay neuter law soon. This case reeks of a home spun pit bull breeding operation. Just like in San Bernardino County last month, not a single pit nutter will show up at council to oppose it. Public sympathy for pit bull owners in California after a child is ripped to shreds is zilch at this point!

Blogger bitbypit  |  7/23/2010 8:37 AM  |  Flag  
It must be noted that the State of California was formerly an anti-BSL state. Currently, the state allows the regulation of the spay/neuter status of "dogs by breed." This 2006 state law (SB 861) allowed the City of San Francisco to legally adopt the state's first Pit Bull Sterilization law. Other municipalities have since adopted a similar sterilization law. The City of Concord and the Contra Costa Humane Society supported SB 861. It seems just a matter of time for them to adopt a pit bull sterilization law in light of the most recent fatal pit bull mauling.

Blogger HonestyHelps  |  7/23/2010 11:33 AM  |  Flag  
California forbids banning/BSL but not MSN for pits and pit types. You can't ban them but you can pass mandatory spay/neuter for them. Seems that when LA took up the subject instead of doing it just for pits, they included all breeds. Others have followed that route. San Bernardino County just passed MSN for pits only.

San Bernardino passed their MSN as a "population control" ordinance rather than a vicious/dangerous dog ordinance. Only opposition on the final reading was the Orange Empire Kennel Club. The Board of Supervisors were even shocked at the lack of opposition, they had expected it. Maybe it is just a matter of presentation. Who could argue with trying to stop the euthanization of pits in the shelters? The nutters would look foolish going against that.

Blogger Donnie Brasco  |  7/23/2010 11:50 AM  |  Flag  
It is a matter of time, folks, before lawmakers come to their senses and pass specific, effective laws eliminating this breed. England did it 1991. This is where the dogs originate! What does that tell you? The owner of the dogs, based on the newspaper articles, very clearly had knowledge of the dogs propensity to be aggressive. Is there a pit bull owner out there that doesn't? Gimme a break. Like the 1979 Alaska article, "A pit bull that hasn't killed another dog is a pit bull that hasn't got loose".

OpenID trigger770  |  7/23/2010 12:41 PM  |  Flag  
Some of the news reports are referring back to the 2005 Concord attack. I think I understand now why Concord authorities have acted so speedily.

DeCosta said his office wants a face-to-face interview with Bray. He also defended his office's handling of past complaints regarding Bray's dogs. He said there wasn't enough evidence in the previous incidents to label Bray's dogs "dangerous," a designation that would have required Bray to seek a special permit and buy $50,000 in insurance coverage.

OpenID trigger770  |  7/23/2010 1:16 PM  |  Flag  
In a separate video, he said that he got one female from a shelter that was pregnant?

"I got it from the animal shelter and the dog came already pregnant. The animal shelter did not realize, because I remember the animal shelter told me that I needed to get him fixed. And that dog hadn't had any other contact with any other dog. So it tells me that it became pregnant at the shelter."

I thought there was a law in CA that prevented adopting out unsterilized pets?

Blogger P.  |  7/23/2010 6:26 PM  |  Flag  
Trigger, there is a law, the Vincent Bill, passed along with the Hayden Act, the worst piece of legislation ever. The Vincent Bill was passed primarily to stop breeders from obtaining breeding stock from the shelters but was marketed as a population control measure. However, there is no power of enforcement behind it. The vets don't help either because many of them are against early spay/neuter or rather their surgerical skills are not up to the task. One large Humane Society does early spay/neuter and has been since 1998, when the Vincent was passed. They've made an effort to see if there are problems with early spay/neuter like the breeders say. Nothing, haven't had any reported problems because of early s/n. They do upwards of 60 animals a day, everyday for the last 12 years, that's lots of dogs and cats.

What it comes down to is that a shelter or rescue can forego the law and nothing can be done about it. Another stupid move for that state, pass a law that means nothing really. The Hayden Act that was passed at the same time, the mandate that it created was recently repealed by Ar-nold. No Kill'ers loved this legislation, it applied to hold times, etc. It had a mandate attached that they overlooked. That mandate actually paid shelters to euthanize, not adopt. It said that the shelters would get the additional money that was spent to fulfill this law from their adoption fees but the ones not adopted that cost extra money for the hold times were the ones the mandate paid for. In essence paying the shelters to euthanize. Smaller shelters with tight or no budgets had no incentive to not euthanize thus setting CA shelters back, instead of moving them forward. And they wonder why it's called LaLaLand.

Blogger ItsATragedy  |  7/24/2010 3:42 PM  |  Flag  
He mentioned a Lake County shelter.

Could this be the shelter that gave out this unaltered and pregnant pit bull?

If so, they are pulling fighting dogs and bite cases from animal control without knowing a thing about these dogs, then just handing them out like candy, and not even doing appropriate adoptions.

I see that in their list of supplied services for foster homes that there is no spay neuter mentioned. An animal should not even go to a foster home without being spayed and neutered.

If this is the shelter, they have tremendous liability.

And their actions got an innocent chihuahua killed first. Can you imagine being so irresponsible as to place a pit bull in a household with small dogs?

These shelters are being run without regard to safety or even common sense, or even humane treatment of animals. They "saved the life" of a pit bull, only to create a large number of pit bulls, kill a chihuahua, and now kill and injure people.
When will the people running these shelters accept that they are doing terrible harm to animals and people by placing these pit bulls?

They aren't saving lives, they are killing through pit bull placement.

And again, we see pit bulls with dog aggression that continue on to KILL CHILDREN.

No dog aggressive pit bull should ever be placed. These shelters now know there is a pattern, and this is a warning sign that a pit bull is deadly to humans.

It has gotten to the point that animal shelters are committing cruelty to animals and people by placing pit bulls.

Blogger ItsATragedy  |  7/24/2010 5:05 PM  |  Flag  
Look at all these. Many unaltered, getting pulled out of animal control, ex fighting dogs, bite cases. These people are just giving them out to anyone who will take them. It is just insanity! These dogs are going to kill someone.

These people are not helping anything, they are just hurting all involved.

And animal control is just handing out unaltered pit bulls to anyone who will take them, then they get handed on.

They all are setting up another situation just like this tragedy.

Blogger P.  |  7/24/2010 6:37 PM  |  Flag  
In regards to early spay/neuter, my impression from talking with vets that do support it is that vets who don't do it are not that good surgically. One vet I know has been doing it for over 20 years. He does nothing but s/n and his appointments are booked in minutes. I think a female is 13 minutes and a male is 7-9 minutes. So this means a very short time on anesthesia. He rarely had a dog stay overnite, unlike some vets wanting to make extra with an overnite visit. No e-collars and I never needed pain medication for the many he did for me. And all of them were up and about within 6 hours of surgery as if nothing happened.

But spay/neuter is not a remedy for the inborn aggressiveness of the pit bull. Vets will tell you that there is only a 50/50 chance of changing temperament and that depends on the age of it being done. So the earlier the altering, the better chance of you have of changing temperament but 50/50 is not good enough to risk when you speak of pit bulls, at least in my book. And it is deceiving to say that altering will change a pit because of their genetics, may apply to other breeds, not to pits.

Blogger bitbypit  |  7/24/2010 7:34 PM  |  Flag  
ItsATragedy: Reposted 7/25/10

Because this addresses the outrageous overpopulation problem with pit bulls, I thought I would post this first hand information.

Early spay neuter is one of the best procedures ever developed and it is a tragedy that this is not being widely used to reduce numbers of unwanteds.

It has been done successfully for many decades.

Animals recover quickly, easily, no pain, fewer complications by far, the recovery time is nearly instantaneous compared to doing it at an older age. It is far less stressful for the animal in every way.

There have been decades of testing and the advantages are enormous. There just aren't problems with pediatric or early spay neuter.

Vets have to learn a couple of simple new practices. Once they do it, they realize what an advantage and a plus for the animals that early spay neuter is.

The only thing that stops vets from performing early or pediatric spay neuter is ignorance, clinging to old outdated habits, and superstition, mostly fictitious stories spread by breeders (and dishonest vets who are paid by breeders) so they can avoid having to spend the money to alter their sold animals and can profit more.

As in any trade, there are vets that are terribly behind the times and resistant to improvements and bettering their skills.

Early spay neuter could dramatically reduce the number of pit bulls getting abandoned and getting euthanized. If only the Bad Raps would initiate intensive spay neuter campaigns for pit bulls, and get vets trained in pediatric spay neuter, they could reduce suffering (and attacks) almost instantly.

But because they decided to go the breeder route rather than the humane route, pit bulls and the community lose.

However, every private citizen who cares about either the animal issue or attack issue or both should be encouraging their vets to learn and practice pediatric spay neuter, and not take no for an answer. Clinging to superstition or bad habits is not being a responsible professional.

I can tell you first hand from some of the most highly respected vets in the business that the old, habitual age of 6 months for spay neuter was a fairly arbitrary decision made long ago when vets didn't know better and didn't have the information or the research. It just is an outdated, unproven guideline that vets cling to like an old wives tale or a bad habit. Every professional trade has its bad habits they cling to until trailblazers have the guts to stand up to the misinformation.

Quote from a vet:

"Why don’t all veterinarians do early spay/neuter?

I can only tell you why I didn’t do early spay/neuter in my private practice before coming to Best Friends. I was afraid to. I had been to a veterinary school that did not mention early spay/ neuter or teach the techniques that make it a simple, safe, and effective procedure. Moreover, I was not given the knowledge of the benefits and the lack of harmful side effects."

Yes, this is a Best Friends link but this vet is among the more honest and open about pediatric spay neuter.

Extensively long links causes bad alignment issues in some browsers. We had to reduce the Google Books link to a Tiny URL.

OpenID trigger770  |  7/24/2010 7:47 PM  |  Flag  
Excuse me, but Mr. Hayashi said in a different interview (there were multiple interviews) that after the first litter, he kept two pit bulls for his son and gave the rest away. Then Sadie got pregnant again and he ended up with two more. The SF article clearly implies that Sadie had two litters and each litter was comprised of two dogs. Now that does NOT make sense. Sure, it's possible to have litters this small, but its not normal.

OpenID trigger770  |  7/26/2010 1:06 PM  |  Flag  
"I know for a fact that my father loves my son and I know for a fact it was an accident," he said. "I hope we get (my father) back because my family needs him to heal. It's not just the loss of my son my family needs him to heal. We can't heal without my dad. He doesn't deserve to go to prison"

Blogger cravendesires  |  8/05/2010 4:20 PM  |  Flag  
have you seen this crazy update?

"Prosecutor Mary Knox said today that the dogs killed two other family pets in the same time period -- a parrot and an Akita, a large-breed dog who had poked its head into a room containing the dogs. The mauling suffered by the Akita was so severe that its head was bitten off, Knox said."


OpenID trigger770  |  8/05/2010 5:53 PM  |  Flag  
This man also had an AKITA? So at one point this man had 7 household dogs, 6 being fighting breeds? This man is a nut job and negligent to the max!

Blogger Bagheera Kiplingi  |  8/05/2010 6:26 PM  |  Flag  
In other Contra Costa news...

There is a spay neuter law in the works for wiggle butts.


Details also emerged claiming the dogs had previously showed aggression towards the 2-year-old victim and his older, 4-year-old brother before the fatal attack in July.

Blogger Dark  |  8/05/2010 9:00 PM  |  Flag  
For him to sit there and say that he had no idea that a pit bull could pull the face off of a child after they pulled the HEAD off of his Akita shows him to be a liar in the worst possible way. This was a HOMICIDE, plain and simple.

Blogger P.  |  8/07/2010 10:30 AM  |  Flag  
A reporter told me that one of the maulspawn has already been surrended because it was showing signs of aggressiveness.

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