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14 thoughts on “2017 Dog Bite Fatality: Man Dies After Vicious Attack by Two Pit Bulls in Lincoln Heights

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  1. This is a wrongful death case if there ever was one. Time for some BSL: Breed-specific litigation.

  2. These dogs should have been taken after the FIRST attack!!! That the owner would not only keep them but ALLOW them to maul a second time and stand there and do NOTHING says everything about the mentality of pit owners in general.

  3. Exactly the reason dogs who attack dogs need to be put down too! They go on to kill people as well.

    • But that's killing dogs! And that must never happen! The Cult of Dog will not allow such a thing.

  4. Oh, dear. That poor man and his poor family! May God bring them comfort.

    Catherine Hobbs, you are so right. Yet again we see that the line pit advocates spout about animal aggression being different from human aggression isn't true. Yes, there are some dogs like terriers that may kill rats and would never harm a human (though some are known to bite people)…but a dog bred originally to take down bulls and bears doesn't think twice about seriously going after a person.

  5. HOW is this not a national issue?! Im honestly just baffled by all the attention on bans over immigrants & guns & GMO etc etc but *this* is the issue i see killing innocent children & terrorizing communities on a weekly basis ALL over America! Im just baffled by its total absence in Natl Gov discussions on safety, how many people have to die? The horrible mauling deaths of so many innocent animals is by far enough in my mind to establish a crisis, but leadership silence on mauled citizens & murdered children just takes it to a whole new level of unbelievable denial. Really, what will it take to bring this to the national stage?!

    • If it's to become a national issue, then we are going to need to discuss the out of control worship of dogs. That's the root of this problem.

  6. I will never understand this, ever. I know so many people who own these pits and all say how wonderful they are. If I direct them to this site they get so defensive and call me ignorant. Talk about denial! Shelters are overrun with this type of dog. Now some cities are regulating adoption so you can only adopt a shelter dog! This is getting dangerous for everyone!

    • The correct euphemism is "homeless pet." "Shelter dog" is so last year.

    • And you have shelters like NYC Animal Care and Control who are up to their necks in pit bulls who are clearly dangerous, but they like to use deceptive language to cover up the dog's aggression. For example: "when approached by another dog, Fluffy offers corrective action", meaning Fluffy snapped at the other dog. Or you have a blatantly human aggressive dog and they STILL try to adopt them out!! For example: (and this is horrifying)
      http://nycdogs.urgentpodr.org/john-a1104294/

  7. How can they even pretend they have NO knowledge of the dogs vicious propensity OR ability to escape when they escaped and killed just FOUR days earlier? These people should be in jail for negligent homicide!

  8. I don't think all dogs that attack other dogs will necessarily become aggressive to people.

    Aggression isn't a black and white issue – there are different reasons a dog will become aggressive. Fear aggression – a dog that is terrified of other dogs may attack to defend itself when approached by a dog – if those dogs are not afraid of people then they wouldn't become aggressive to people. Fear can be very specific – some dogs are scared of people wearing hats for example or specific breeds of dog.

    Dogs that view other dogs as prey might attack a person if they also view people as prey (more likely to attack a child as children run around and shriek and can trigger prey drive).

    A dog that is territorial could attack any animal (including humans) that encroached on its territory but is unlikely to attack outside of its perceived territory.

    Pit bulls attack dogs because they have been bred to view dogs as prey – it's clear that it is normally prey drive in action when they attack as they don't usually bark or growl or give any warning other than a fixed stare (like eye in border collies – the beginning of the hunting sequence). Pits weren't intended to attack people but as we know man biters weren't actually culled so there are some lines that would routinely attack humans too (Colby's own dog killed his nephew and it's unclear if he culled that dog or continued to fight and breed from it). Many of the man biters were grand champion fighters and were extensively bred from so are more common than pit advocates would have you believe (particularly in the game bred dogs).

    I do think that a dog that mauls or kills another dog should be put down – because even if it's only fear aggression if it has escalated to that point (the first attacks would have been nips or minor bites unless the dog never had any bite inhibition at all) it's very difficult or impossible to rehabilitate and you can never trust that dog again.

  9. i think laws need to be established that if you want to own a potentially dangerous dog that weighs over 50 pounds, you'll need a class II license, that the animal will be under supervision when not at home and muzzled at all times while been walked on a leash.
    Plus, owner would also have to have liability insurance.

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