Tuesday, November 2, 2010
UPDATE 11/02/10: The 85-year old victim did not survive through the night. A Russian speaking friend told DogsBite.org that her name is Maria Sineva and that she was a WWII veteran. It is no surprise that Sineva succumbed to the injuries, which included the amputation of both hands and massive blood loss. Due to her death, authorities have launched a criminal investigation. If the owner of the pit bulls is found guilty, he faces up to three years in jail.
11/01/10: The Global Cliché Debate
Krasnodar, RU - An international news agency reported Monday that an 85-year old woman was nearly killed by her neighbor's pit bulls while in her own yard. The incident occurred in Krasnodar, a city in Southern Russia. One police officer was badly bitten trying to stop the attack. Officers shot both animals dead. Yury Shport, deputy chief doctor of Krasnodar city hospital, told reporters they had to operate immediately, amputating both of the victim's arms.1
Violent pit bull maulings are a global occurrence. This is why entire countries choose to regulate this dog breed.2The news anchor in the video quickly alights upon the cliché question: "Is it the owner or the breed?" Showing that the same argument used by U.S. pro-pit bull groups is the same one used by groups in Russia, and other countries struggling with a pit bull problem. The argument does nothing to solve the 30-year old debate nor does it reduce the number of attacks. Pit bull maulings have only increased since the adoption of this cliché argument in the 1980s.
Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for Russia's Investigative Committee, refers to a "gap in legislation" that allows for the continuation of these maulings. Courts are designed for human-on-human crimes, not animal-on-human crimes. Thus the latter are difficult to prosecute and leave victims without adequate civil recourse. A violent attack may also be the first incident by the dog, whereby perpetuating the excuse, "How could the dog owner have known?"
Vladimir Markin: "Unfortunately, it is not the first time when dangerous animals [e.g., domesticated family pets] are causing severe and sometimes deadly injuries. I think that one of the reasons is that there is a gap in legislation when it comes to dog ownership, and punishment for those whose animals attack people. Large dogs should be considered dangerous, just like handguns."Breed-specific laws are designed to prevent an attack by regulating the ownership of dangerous dog breeds, namely pit bulls. Such laws recognize that prosecution and civil recourse for victims after an attack is virtually impossible. As a "front end" strategy, such laws regulate the ownership of these breeds to prevent an attack prior to its occurrence, instead of relying upon insufficient "back end" strategies that might punish a dog owner after an attack.
The Animal Trainer
Just like in the U.S., the reporter interviewed a common pit bull advocate -- a 20-plus-year old female perceived expert -- and so-called "animal trainer." (Note that the pit bull quickly tries to bite the microphone of the reporter.) This woman is likely little more than a dog owner who belongs to a dog club. Her voice, and every pit bull advocate like hers, deserves no place in this debate.3 As the reporter states, when referring to the $600 cost of adequately training a pit bull:
"Seems a bargain considering the price paid by the elderly woman who remains in a coma with doctors fighting for her life."
2Please see the Ecuador post to learn more.
3In the most comical pit bull interview to date -- and potentially the most litigious if that pit bull had snapped on camera -- Texas "dog" attorney Zandra Anderson represents the ridiculousness of the pro-pit bull voice and why lawmakers should give it as much credibility as Alien Abduction groups attempting to steer and control public policy. (DogsBite.org has NO idea where Fox came up with the number "38." There were easily thousands of pit bull biting incidents in the State of Texas in 2009.)
06/25/10: Pit Bulls Kill Man in Belize; Authorities Initially Suppress Information
11/13/09: Family Pit Bull Berserks, Kills 85-Year Old Owner in Peru
08/29/09: Pit Bull Kills Owner, 35, in Bloody Buenos Aires Attack
02/06/09: Ecuador Joins International Trend: Bans Pit Bulls and Rottweilers...
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| 11/01/2010 11:04 PM |
There was a near or actual single arm loss IN last year (Janet Hartman):
A double arm loss, also in IN in 2008 (Annette Williams):
And Vicky Jeffries in Texas in 2006...
Please let us know if you find out additional information. You may also be referring to a historical attack in the CA region, an attack occurring prior 2000.
| 11/02/2010 12:32 AM |
This is a point that has gotten lost recently. Targeting the owners entails allowing an attack to occur first. And no matter what the penalty to the owner might be, the woman has lost her arms and her life as she knew it.
Also, laws that target owners put the responsibility on the victim to work through the legal and insurance system to try to be compensated for her medical bills. And requiring that the owner pay for therapy and long term care is not even on the table.
BSL preempts the attacks.
The argument that not all pits are vicious is a straw man argument. The issue is not that all pits are acting viciously all the time. The issue is that they attack unpredictably and with devastating ferocity when they do.
I know the analogy has been made to the pinto car before. The vast majority of those cars did not blow up. The issue was that when they were involved in a very common accident, the gas tank would blow up in those relatively few accidents that did occur.
There was no question but that exploding gas tanks were unacceptable because of the unpredictability and magnitude of the destruction, not because of the frequency of the explosions.
| 11/02/2010 12:39 AM |
the pit nutters come crawling out of the woodwork to defend these freaks of nature. they blather endlessly about "discrimination" (ledy's new buzz word) and the lack of any need for special training, then foolishly demonstrate for the entire world that her frankenmauler will not obey SIMPLE commands. this nutter asked her mutant to jump up on the sofa and lay down, it did neither.
on another note, russia has a HUGE dog fighting problem!
| 11/02/2010 11:55 AM |
$2500 or 6 months jail time somehow doesn't seem equivalent to the loss off 2 arms.
And did you see the height of that fence? Hello? Pit bulls need pens and yards with ceilings; I am more convinced than ever now. No one should have to live in fear next to dogs like this. I mean obviously the dogs were contained - they just got over the fence!
6 ft fences are NOT the answer.
| 11/02/2010 12:40 PM |
Russian organized crime is very big and very big in dog fighting.
It is rather similar to the organized Southern dog fighting rackets here, and the KKK.
Dog fighting requires many dogs being bred for the industry. There is a large extended industry of dog breeding backing up dog fighting.
The people defending the dog are defending their pit bull breeding income. Yes, that includes the pit bull breeders here. American bred pit bulls are sold and shipped to Russia for the fighting dog racket. American organized crime is a part of this racket.
Pit bull breeders in America have a lot to lose if they can't trick the American public into letting them continue to breed fighting dogs. This is their business, their big money industry.
They will try anything to convince fools to help them support the pit bull breeding industry and their incomes.
The "discrimination" ploy is just one that pit bull breeders and dog fighters have used for a long time to try to protect their incomes and business interests.
Ledy VanKavage is using the pit bull breeding industry's language and manipulation. Does she know she is doing this?
| 11/02/2010 12:51 PM |
Marjorie Kaplan http://corporate.discovery.com/leadership/marjorie-kaplan/ of Animal Planet owned by Discovery Networks is one example of someone who has been tricked by the "discrimination" ploy to produce and show pit bull breeder propaganda.
Tia Torres, one of her show hosts, receives money and support from pit bull breeders by their own admission. They even pose with her in photos on their websites thanking her for her help!
What pit bull breeders fear the most is regulation. With regulation, they won't be able to make massive amounts of tax-free money using and abusing pit bulls, and forcing the taxpayer and the pet rescuer to clean up after them.
So they use propaganda like "discrimination" to try to fend off regulation and keep minting money with pit bulls.
This is how a very corrupt entity propagandizes. Even educated people who should know better fall for it.
Of course, there are educated people involved in pit bull breeding who should know better, and one would hope had better ethics. Not the case.
| 11/02/2010 2:04 PM |
You're not going to believe this, apparently in Krasnodar, there is an organization named "Pit Bull", an extreme ethnic hate group...
Krasnodar: "Pit Bull" still recognized as "extremist community"
Organization "Pit Bull" is a public non-profit association that is subject to the Federal Law of 19.05.1995 № 82-FZ "On public associations". Under this Act in the Russian Federation prohibits the creation and operation of public associations whose aims and actions are aimed at carrying out extremist activities.
(Shame on the Russians for mixing up the pit nuttery metaphors)
| 11/02/2010 2:15 PM |
In Krasnodar, members of extremist grouping "Pit Bull" sentenced to 6 years in prison
On April 5 (2010), the Sovietskiy District Court of Krasnodar sentenced Vladislav Gmyrya and Pavel Vetrov, the organizer and one of the members of the extremist group named "Pit Bull" to 6 years of imprisonment in a maximum security colony. Under the version of the investigation, in February 2007 Gmyrya set up an extremist community "Pit Bull" with the aim to commit crimes against non-Slavic nationals on the basis of national hatred...
| 11/04/2010 12:16 AM |
It is very disturbing to me that this elderly woman died and after everything she went through. If these dog owners have any sort of conscience this will haunt them for the rest of their lives. But I wonder - perhaps all they are worried about is their fine and their jail time.
| 11/05/2010 4:36 AM |
International Piticides for 2010:
85 years old/November 1, 2010
Neighbor’s Pit bull/WWII Veteran
3 years old/Tenerife, Spain
June 6, 2010
65 year old/Hattieville, Belize
May 31, 2010
Neighbor’s Pit Bulls escaped fence/ American Citizen
3 years old/Sachsenburg, Germany
May 22, 2010
Aunt’s four illegal Pit Bulls during visit
23 months old/Pontevedra, Spain
May 21, 2010
Jean Paul Massey
4 years old/Merseyside,England
May 11. 2010
Uncle’s illegal Pit Breeding business previously reported to police and ignored.
21 years old/Vanderbijipark, South Africa
May 9, 2010
Killed by own dogs breaking up a fight
| 11/05/2010 6:23 AM |
What an injustice! Having survived WW2 only to be killed by a stupid pit monster! Laws everywhere need to be changed to severely punished the scumbags who allow their damn dogs to attack.