Back in September, a 70-year old man was severely mauled by three pit bulls in Chili, New York. A Medicab driver named Scott Quenell was a on a routine call when he saw three pit bulls dragging what he thought was a "bag of garbage" across the street. When he looked closer, he realized that it was not a bag of garbage at all. What was being pulled and ripped apart along the street was an elderly man, 70-year old Thomas Tziatzou.
At the court hearing, about a week later, witnesses told the judge how they used their cars to try to get the dogs off the victim. Lori Hendron said she saw the dogs grab him by his head and legs and rip his ear off. Prosecutor Keith O'Toole told reporters, "He was hit down so hard that his dentures flew out of his head onto the street. He was shredded, shredded so much, bitten so much that the tendons on his arms were exposed."
The judge only ordered one of the three dogs destroyed.
It has come to the attention of DogsBite.org that "pit bull shuffling" may be occurring regarding one of the remaining dogs. The judge had ordered the two remaining dogs to be examined by an animal behaviorist to determine their fate. According to a recent posting at Pit Bull Talk Forum, the behaviorist is recommending that one dog be rescued, even though he or she reportedly describes this dog as "very dominate."
8th post down: "Just popped in to ask/plead for help...a few weeks ago there was a mauling incident where 3 pits attacked a 70 year old man in the city of Rochester...anyway the behaviorist we worked with is in charge of evaluating these dogs and recommending what to do with them. She called me because at the time when we worked with her, I was involved with the "other" place and she needs to recommend a rescue to take one of the dogs in.
I guess 2 of them are not adoptable, but there is one dog she thinks is totally adoptable but needs some work. She will not recommend that he goes back to the former owners, she wants a rescue to take him. I told her I didn't trust the "other place" but that i would post here and see if anyone could help, or take him into rescue, or knew anyone who could. She was told he'd be put down otherwise and she sees that as totally unnecessary.
Anyway, the dog is a male, unneutered, white, 5 months...also he is very dominant she said. He has dem. mange. She thinks he is a mix, but doesn't know for sure. If anyone can help-please let me know ASAP!!! Thanks guys!"
The behaviorist appears to believe that the male, unaltered and "very dominant' pit bull that participated in an attack that nearly killed a man is a good, safe rescue bet. The references to the "other place" sound like a local shelter or the Chili Animal Control Department. This cannot be determined from the post. What can be determined is that there is an attempt to shuffle this pit bull around in hopes of rescue and rehabilitation.
Who knows where the dog might end up?
At the hearing to determine the fate of the dogs, not only did the witnesses, prosecutor and victim think it wise to put down all three dogs, the nearby town of Wheatland's Dog Control Officer Gary Hults agreed as well. He said, "Personally I'm very concerned about it. In the Town of Wheatland we take very serious when people get bit or whatever, when we deal with what we consider dangerous dogs," says Hults.
The result of the judge's ruling now has an animal advocate -- who states "I can't imagine a rescue taking in a dog like this but thought I would post it anyway" -- making a cross-posting to a forum board with secretive references in hopes of saving this dog. But how does one find a home for this dog? What are the chances this dog will ever be rehabilitated and land in an environment other than a desperate or violent one?
Related articles:
09/08/08: 70-Year Old Man Mauled by Pit Bulls in New York
07/14/08: Adoption Disaster; Another Dog Dead to Pit Bulls
A big problem is that “animal behaviorist” is a useless term. There are no real experts in animal behavior, only people with vague opinions.
Even people who consider themselves “animal behaviorists” can’t agree on excactly what constititues aggression or danger. They have no clue! They argue with each other all the time on even the simplest aspects of behavior.
An added problem is when a pseudo “animal behaviorist” uses this vague term to hide ulterior motives. Such as being a dog breeder, and trying to protect breeders or expensive breeding stock. Or being one of the no kill fanatics who think that aggressive dogs should get adopted out.
The biggest problem is a judge who is letting him or her self get manipulated by these fake experts and special interests, and is goaded into allowing dangerous dogs to be released to kill and maul again.
There needs to be public exposure of these judges. Their ignorance is endangering many.
And there have too many cases where the judge has allowed a pit bull to be “shuffled” or returned to owner, and the dog MAULS AGAIN.
There needs to be accountability.
” She called me because at the time when we worked with her, I was involved with the “other” place and she needs to recommend a rescue to take one of the dogs in.”
A “bahaviorist” who is colluding with breeders or fanatics to hide aggressive dogs and release them to another community to kill needs to be exposed.
And they should be sued.
If I’m reading this correctly, the dog is only 5 months old. That means at 5 months the dog has already mauled someone and is considered very dominant. A mauling, dominant puppy. What happens when this dog matures?
One free bite is now one free kill?
Human life seems to be worthless in the United States. When a pit bull that participated in the slaughter of an elderly man has a chance of not being put down. What is wrong with these people? We are talking about a D-O-G! Did the Judge get to view pictures of this poor man’s injuries? Why is a dog valued more highly than the good probability of another person being mauled? This seems criminal to me— what will it take to expose and sue this behavorist?
“A “bahaviorist” who is colluding with breeders or fanatics to hide aggressive dogs and release them to another community to kill needs to be exposed.”
Sounds a lot like the Catholic Church!
“A big problem is that “animal behaviorist” is a useless term. There are no real experts in animal behavior, only people with vague opinions.”
And becoming more useless all of the time. The pit nutters all seem to be flocking to get their “certificates” in dog training or dog behavior so that they can flood public opinion with “expert” advice.
Ask yourself, which came first, the dog trainer/aggression expert or the pit bull owner?
Any other breed community would be horrified by this dog’s conduct and ensure that it was culled from the genepool..Instead, the pit nutters are acting like the Catholic Church schuffling around pedophiles….. And then they complain about a Bad Rap”!
http://democratandchronicle.com/article/20080830/NEWS01/808300327&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL
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Great post annod!
They will say anything, won’t they? Does any of them know what they are doing?
I thought there was no such thing as a pit bull.
No david, there are pit bulls, its just no one is qualified to identify them. Except if they are on Verizon commercials.
They sure send lots of kids into Life flight helo’s for not being a breed.
Labs
Poodles
Shelties
corgies
All examples of shortened slang names…These breeds do exist.
Yes, it’s true pit bulls are dangerous and its up to the owner’s to control their dogs. Unfortunately, so many are bred and are owned by people that do not take them seriously. I have studied the pit bull because I own one. However, no matter how much training they go through they are still unpredictable.
Owner’s should have ONLY one, because they run in packs and keep them under control at all times. And NEVER trust them around strangers and everyone would live in a safer place. These dogs should also NEVER be left in the backyard or on a chain.