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Blogger vintage  |  5/09/2012 3:17 AM  |  Flag  
190th US Piticide since the looney tunes who constucted the famous CDC report pulled a fast one on the American people.

Meet the Chief Architect of the CDC report:

Dr Randall Lockwood: “The animal slept in my sleeping bag during camping expeditions and appeared friendly, but was eventually hunted down and shot for killing a sheep” SAY WHAT?!?

Blogger Opalina  |  5/09/2012 6:04 AM  |  Flag  
What a terrible tragedy. That poor child. Thank God the neighbor killed the beast, otherwise someone would try to save it. And that someone could have been Trujillos, the AC guy. I can't believe he actually said there are no bad dogs. That's nutter speak.

The grandmother is going to have to live with the memory of the horrifying last moments of her granddaughter's life. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. But I do wish she had learned from other's mistakes, and gotten rid of that dog as soon as she had a grandchild. With pits, supervision is not enough to ensure a child's safety around them. She probably thought like so many others that her pit would never do such a thing.

OpenID maultalk  |  5/09/2012 7:58 AM  |  Flag  
Creepy. Here is a photo of the ground level trampoline the two were found hiding under:

Blogger Don B.  |  5/09/2012 3:09 PM  |  Flag  
I have an article from the mid-1980s from Tijeras, New Mexico, which discusses the fatal attacks some thirty (30) years ago. Sadly, this is not something unheard of in New Mexico. In fact, the City of Tijeras was a pioneer in the area of Breed Specific Laws and that case and what the Judges say in its opinion reflect much of the same from all the way across the country in the recent Maryland, Solesky case. The more things change, the more they stay the same...Poor kid.

Blogger Opalina  |  5/09/2012 3:14 PM  |  Flag  
That is creepy, mt! You know, I bet these owners were so pleased with how well the dog behaved around this child, up until this point, of course. I'm sure they really believed "it's all in how you raise them." They might have even fallen for the "nanny dog" claptrap.

OpenID maultalk  |  5/09/2012 3:55 PM  |  Flag  
The father of the deceased child appears to be a Nutter:

OpenID maultalk  |  5/09/2012 4:13 PM  |  Flag  
Oh boy...this is getting really sad, I think the killer dog is depicted on the father's Facebook timeline (Feb 13, 2012) right next to "I love these animals" and the famous poetry pict: "Judge the Deed, Not the Breed, So Give a Pit Bull a Try, Before Sentencing Them All to Die"... There just aren't words. Looks like it was a lazy house dog, just over 2-years old, that pulled the snap-o-la.

Blogger Opalina  |  5/10/2012 6:20 AM  |  Flag  
Wow, so sad, mt! I might have missed it in the articles, but not sure whose dog attacked, whether it was his or the grandmother's. I just hate that other nutters slam the comments with how great the dogs are with not a care for the victim. That's all they care about -- trolling for attack stories in order to defend the pits. And blaming the grandmother here. All the pictures we see of children with their faces right up to pit jaws, in order to prove how good they are with children -- if the dog decided to attack, there would be nothing they could do even if they were only 2 feet away. Sometimes even when they are holding the child in their arms.

Blogger Opalina  |  5/10/2012 6:21 AM  |  Flag  
Don. B, I would be interested in that article.

Blogger april 29  |  5/10/2012 7:52 AM  |  Flag  
That child's beautiful face haunts me... and brings tears to my eyes. What a horrid and preventable tragedy.

Blogger Rag Doll  |  5/10/2012 8:43 AM  |  Flag  
That link appears to be dead. Taken down or only for fb members?

OpenID maultalk  |  5/10/2012 9:50 AM  |  Flag  
You have to be logged into Facebook to see it's content...

Blogger snack sized dog  |  5/10/2012 11:33 AM  |  Flag  
oh looking at that little girl's face and those facebook pictures of the dog - it is very disheartening. One of the comments under the dog JOKINGLY says, "some dogs ya just gotta watch every minute!"

I don't undestand why people can't get the idea that these dogs are unpredictable and they can be cute couch potatoes for years before killing.

Blogger Candormd  |  5/10/2012 3:54 PM  |  Flag  
There are so many people who don't have knowledge or expertise with dogs. They rely on those who claim to be experienced for their guidance.

When shelters, breeders, rescues, vets, animal control, AKC,UKC, and groups like Animal Farm Foundation give false consumer information and tell people that pit bulls are "nanny dogs" and "good with kids" and "just need love," that is false information that leads to death and injury. It is misrepresentation. It is consumer fraud.

These people and groups need to be held responsible for the lies they tell.

Blogger Candormd  |  5/12/2012 2:08 AM  |  Flag  
A real injustice was done here that should be highlighted.

While this incident was unfolding, before the incident had even started to be investigated, the director of Amnimal Services, Dr. Beth Vesco-Mock, told an outrageous lie, falsified the truth, and blamed the victim and family.

Beth Vesco-Mock is a DVM and she fabricated a lie to protect a fighting breed and cover the truth.

She should lose her professional license, and certainly her job. She persecuted that family for her own personal interests.

"The toddler appeared to have been left alone with the dog in the backyard, said Dr. Beth Vesco-Mock, director of the Animal Services Center of the Mesilla Valley.

"That is just not appropriate. Young children need to be supervised when they're around pets," said Vesco-Mock, who said that dogs can react, sometimes negatively, when children make sudden movements or behaviors around them.

"It does not mean the dog is vicious, or a bad dog; there is no such thing as a bad dog, but you have to be responsible with your children," Vesco-Mock said.
Animal Control officers took the pit bull to the Animal Service Center of the Mesilla Valley."

Blogger Candormd  |  5/12/2012 2:15 AM  |  Flag  
I wish that someone could tell me how Vesco-Mock was hired, because she had been fired from her previous job for poor performance in Animal Services in DeKalb Copunty Georgia.

She apparently is a No Kill zealot and was also overcrowding the shelter.

How does she even have a license?

People must investigate who is running animal control in their area and research these people, because zealots who have been fired are just getting recycled and putting people at risk.

Blogger lisa  |  5/12/2012 1:18 PM  |  Flag  
Victoria L Voith DVM, PhD, DACVB
College of Veterinary Medicine
Western University of Health Sciences

has anyone seen this the pitnutters are going crazy with it saying it debunks all research ever done on pitbulls i would like to have something to fire back at them regarding this it is also done by someone that has been referrenced before on this site is she now flip flopping please inform

OpenID truthbird  |  5/12/2012 4:24 PM  |  Flag  
Dr. Beth Vesco-Mock also said this:

Dr. Beth Vesco-Mock, director of the Animal Service Center of the Mesilla Valley, noted that all dogs, including smaller breeds such as chihuahuas and cocker spaniels, bite, but not all can cause damage like a pit bull or other bully breeds. "It's like comparing shooting a .44-magnum to a .22-pistol," said Vesco-Mock, who said she once killed an 8-week-old pit bull puppy that was attacking the other puppies in the litter.

She appears to be under the thumb and flipping around...

Blogger bitbypit  |  5/12/2012 5:05 PM  |  Flag  

Dr. Voith is referenced on this website, but primarily in older studies (10+ years). It definitely appears that she has gone to the other side over this period of time. The Nutters will always use studies, such as this one by Voith, to buoy their position. Notably, appellate courts do not find them persuasive. The Maryland Court of Appeals was specific to this:

The Court wrote: "Some are similar to the arguments made in the appellant or amicus' briefs filed in the present case by supporters of pit bulls. In light of Maryland's situation, we find those particular arguments unpersuasive." Yes, this particular study by Voith was used by the other side to help their case.

There are several decades of evidence from appellate courts that uphold the basic principal that proving with "mathematical certainty of scientific evidence" that a particular dog is a pit bull is not needed. Indeed the finding of a pit bull status can be based on an "expert opinion or on nonscientific evidence."

Furthermore, doggie DNA is subject to overwhelming criticism as to its actual validity. The premier DNA lab, Mars Wisdom Panel, admits that they cannot build an accurate profile for the pit bull breed.

Does Wisdom Panel® Insights™ test for "Pit-bull?"

The term "Pit-bull" does not refer to a single or recognized breed of dog, but rather to a genetically diverse group of breeds. Pit-bull type dogs have historically been bred by combining guarding type breeds with terriers for certain desired characteristics – and as such they may retain many genetic similarities to the likely progenitor breeds and other closely related breeds. Due to the genetic diversity of this group, we cannot build a DNA profile for the Pit-bull.

Blogger vintage  |  5/13/2012 5:40 PM  |  Flag  
Hmmm...I read where they wouldn't build a profile because it would be used for BSL purposes.

Smokescreening bastards the nutters are...

Blogger DAR  |  6/08/2012 2:49 PM  |  Flag  
Very sad loss or losses..All these victims tragedies are terrible!! I am very curious to know at what point in time or era did the pitbull breed begin to get so out of control like this? I've seen some people say 30 years now?? I know there was a time..even if it was long ago...that they weren't THIS out of control..running around mauling children and killing their owners. Deaths and attacks monthly...crazy!! I am honestly curious as to when this madness began. Was it really 30 years ago?

Blogger Putme Incharge  |  9/11/2012 5:00 PM  |  Flag  
What a disturbing update to this already horrible incident.

I am at a loss for words.

This was indeed a crime and not an accident.

Blogger vintage  |  9/12/2012 5:00 AM  |  Flag  
Another child killed by a Pit Bull while in the care of his Grandmother in North Carolina yesterday...These are no longer "Accidents"

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