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11 thoughts on “2024 Dogs Bite Fatality: Woman Killed by Two Pit Bulls Taken in as Strays in Fontana, California

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  1. Do I feel bad for her she died knowing that pitbull are dangerous dog breed not really but it sad that she died after all she a human being. I don’t understand for the life of me why would she take stray dogs.especially pitbull most of them are dangerous no matter the effort you put in them.I’m really sick and tired the excuse this people come up with when a pitbull killed someone .we don’t know why he snap we don’t know what set him off its a mistakes it a tragic accident but please don’t blame the pitbull itself its never the pitbull fault.

    • An “accident”? Like falling off a ladder or slipping in the shower? No way. Don’t cut the pits any slack. Don’t these animals have a mind of their own? Nobody commanded the dogs to attack and kill this poor woman. Why is it when dogs do something good, the dogs are praised as heros, but when dogs do something bad, it’s an accident??

      • The “accident” refers to the manner of death — not the cause of death. There are only 5 manners of death: natural, homicide, suicide, accident, and undetermined. Virtually all fatal dog maulings are manner of death accident, even when there are felony criminal charges. Manner of death is about “human intent.” In the rare instance that a human being “sics a dog on a person,” instructing the dog to “attack/kill the person,” that would be manner of death homicide. (“Medical examiner rules death of 81-year-old man killed by pit bulls an accident” — Both owners pled guilty and were sentenced to 15 and 18 years.) Negligence and involuntary manslaughter can certainly result in criminal charges, but as the title suggests, “involuntary manslaughter” means the “intent of homicide” was not present.

        • I think at some point, the owners of these things should stop getting the benefit of the doubt and the manner of death / injury should be classified as homicide / assault. I think it is apparent that there is intent in many of these cases, the intent being the decision to bring pit bulls into the neighborhood in the first place.

          • I think that certain classes of dogs would have to be legally declared as vicious/deadly just based upon what kind of dog they are, otherwise owners can always claim they had no idea of the risk, and ill informed juries will believe them.

            Passing laws that give whoever is in charge of the dog full responsibility for the harm they cause, as if the person had done it himself, might also work. Seems like attempts to pass laws like that end ups with huge loopholes such as “the dog was provoked.” Would the uneducated, apathetic masses allow such laws? The pro-pit propaganda machine is strong. Anyway we should keep trying. I need to start writing letters to politicians…

          • Here is a 2002 guideline to manner of death. There are interesting parts — and parts that are in continuous debate. It’s a combination of “how injury occurred” and “intent.” It states, “manner of death is an American invention.” The classification of Homicide is neutral — criminal intent is not required (that would be up to prosecutor), but criminal intent often is present. Check #7 Hunting accidents; #11 Motor vehicle fatalities; #16 choke holds by LEO; #21 Gross negligent medical care (aka Doctor Death); #24 Suicide by cop; #26 Child shoots child; #27 Traffic fatality, pedestrian killed; #38 Death of child (such as in a bathtub with water or being left in a locked car). In the realm of a violent dog being an “instrument of death”, such as a vehicle intentionally driven into a crowd or “aggravated assault with a deadly weapon” the classification of Homicide still does not fit without intent. It’s a difficult classification because death by dog mauling is a violent death. So is death by bear attack (classified as accident), but bears are wildlife and Accident makes sense. The same would be true with livestock (farm workers deaths). Seems all animal attacks fall into Accident. At the end of the day, all 50 states should have a felony dog attack law that applies to severe and fatal injury. Attorney Kenneth Phillips’ terminology is the most appropriate, “Canine Homicide.”

  2. The best answer as to why a pitbull kills
    is because it can. Everything can set them off, and they often require multiple pieces of lead in order to get them to relax permanently. Does that sound like a pet? If it does, every wild animal like a lion or a bear would make a great pet. So would a poisonous snake be a great
    pet as long as you had the correct kind
    of anti-venom? Pitbulls kill so many people now that it’s hardly newsworthy anymore. Yet the shelters still consider them great pets. Why not put lions and bears in shelters for adoption?

    • Interesting. I didn’t know that dog maulings are legally classified as accidents. They can’t be homicides (even though many dog owners considered their dogs to be children/people with 4 legs, and in some states pets are now “legal family members”.

      “Caninicide”, death by canine, should be a classification.

    • its much more complex than that , it has to do with inbreeding genetic loading and deleterious genes , in layman’s terms bad wiring that will inevitably short circuit

  3. It would be nice if genetic testing could be done in order to identify which dogs will eventually turn on their owners.
    Unfortunately this would be very expensive if doable. Thus, we are stuck with a lot of mentally unstable dangerous dogs.

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