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Blogger PutMeInCharge41Day  |  8/04/2016 11:15 AM  |  Flag  
Clearly clothes washing is a trigger. I figured I might as well say it first.

Seriously when are people going to wake up. The carnage seems at a record pace this year.

Blogger Ricka Zobel  |  8/04/2016 9:25 PM  |  Flag  
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Blogger gail bruce  |  8/04/2016 11:14 PM  |  Flag  
Yes, I added it to my list. "Washing your clothes in a stream" "Being Homeless" is already on my list. Several "being homeless" was already on my list.

OpenID joelande  |  8/05/2016 1:21 AM  |  Flag  
Pit bull advocates, you did it again

Despite all the pit bulls dying because of overbreeding, you advocates slave away to enable more and more breeders to breed more and more pit bulls!

Breed specific legislation is despised by pit bull breeders and dog fighters because they can't prey on pit bulls as easily

but you advocates help these breeders keep on hurting the dogs themselves, and innocents around them

Blogger EyesOpened  |  8/05/2016 9:07 PM  |  Flag  

Why on earth is there only one news story on this buried several pages in on search results? Usually these DBRFs merit at least several news stories and are higher up on search results.

When Hunter Bragg was killed, it was huge news. Are the pit nutters succeeding in scaring the media? Their cries of unfair media representation may be making reporters think twice.

Blogger Christy D  |  8/06/2016 9:50 PM  |  Flag  
Yes, I had trouble finding this story on line. His story will be buried and his life won't be given another thought by the pibble people.

Blogger Lucu Lencia  |  8/11/2016 8:38 AM  |  Flag  
Because the victim in this case was homeless and probably had little or no family to mourn him. It's a sad fact of human nature not to care about someone in a position of "inferiority" particularly if that person has no support network of friends and family. Homeless people die every day without making headlines.

OpenID truthbirdtoo  |  8/11/2016 11:26 AM  |  Flag  
"The Hawaiian Humane Society released two dogs today to their owners after the dogs allegedly mauled a homeless man to death in Kalihi. Suzy Tam, Humane Society spokeswoman, said police authorized the Humane Society to release the dogs as long as the owners could safely contain the dogs at home."

Blogger Your Quiet Neighbor  |  8/12/2016 7:15 AM  |  Flag  
Looks like the owners got away with murder.

Blogger B Cazz  |  8/12/2016 11:29 PM  |  Flag  
Oh My God! Does Hawaii have a tourist site people can comment on?

Don't Go to Hawaii where it is legal to let your dogs out to kill people!

Blogger Your Quiet Neighbor  |  8/13/2016 7:30 AM  |  Flag  
Good idea. HI is very dependent on tourism. If the state gets hit in the pocketbook, watch HI change its tune.

Blogger PutMeInCharge41Day  |  8/13/2016 10:41 AM  |  Flag  
Clearly I have not had enough coffee this morning because I think I just read that the dogs that killed a man have been released to the owners- who suddenly will be responsible and keep them contained......

I find it even more impossible to understand anyone that would want a dog back that had killed someone.

I think I better go back to bed so I can wake up in the real universe and not Bizarro World.

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  8/14/2016 2:14 AM  |  Flag  
UPDATE: We added several new paragraphs to the August 12 update at the bottom. See "Second Victim Comes Forward." The dogs' owners also deactivated their Facebook pages, so we replaced those live links with PDFs.

Blogger Christy D  |  8/14/2016 7:18 AM  |  Flag  
The owners of Containerland have Yelp and FB business accounts. Would it be a violation of these websites to post about these attacks?

OpenID joelande  |  8/14/2016 7:32 AM  |  Flag  
The Hawaiian Humane society is in the dog fighting business, as are many animal control shelters in the United States.

Special interests got in and contaminated organizations that recieve public funding, and if people would stand up to this, it would stop.

Blogger Your Quiet Neighbor  |  8/14/2016 8:06 AM  |  Flag  
And they feel terrible. Or so they say.

Blogger Your Quiet Neighbor  |  8/14/2016 8:08 AM  |  Flag  
Well, well, well. Another disappearing FB page. That has NEVER happened before.

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  8/14/2016 12:12 PM  |  Flag  
Christy D., focusing only on Yelp (the ContainerLand owners have full control over comments on their FB page, they can delete them, etc), here are the community guidelines:

The "relevance" section answers your question (Yes, it would be a violation). However, the Yelp page will still be interesting to watch to see if any locals do comment. The dogs might have been "part of the consumer experience" when visiting the store. For instance, here is "Bailey" who died in Jan. 2015 seen as the Cover photo of the ContainerLand Facebook page. Clearly the dogs spent time at the facility.

Though we had not noticed this before, the ContainerLand business moved four days after Crisencio Aliado was found mauled to death. Looking at that a little more closely, July 29 was a Friday. By Tuesday, August 2, they were in a new building according to a Yelp review left by Jordan W.

"Containerland has moved to a new location as of 8/2/2016 - 666 Mapunapuna Street, Honolulu, HI 96819. I found the containers that I needed, and plan to return again for more!"

The new location is 1.1 miles away. It is unclear what caused the move. We had noted that the KITV article called it the "old ContainerLand store in Kalihi." The owner's Yelp page does not indicate the move. However, a screenshot we took of the FB page on August 5 shows the address was updated to the new location.

The public first hears about his death on Aug. 2, when the medical examiner announced that Aliado died of dog bite injuries.

Blogger Your Quiet Neighbor  |  8/14/2016 2:51 PM  |  Flag  
All the more reason to stop giving them money. And tell your friends to do the same.

OpenID joelande  |  8/16/2016 8:22 AM  |  Flag  
Try They are VERY flexible with their allowances and their reviews show up in searches. The truth that the public usually never gets to hear

The Hawaii advocates for the homeless also seem to have abandoned this man and others. Does anyone know if there are advocacy groups in that area that actually represent the homeless and their interests?

Blogger EyesOpened  |  8/17/2016 3:01 PM  |  Flag  
Is this a first? I don't recall seeing any reports that a dog who had killed a person was allowed to live, let alone returned to the owners. Then again, I am fairly new to these issues.

As for the condition that the dogs be kept secure...yeah, that's worked out really well so far. Bizarro World is right!

Is dog fighting big in Hawaii? Is there any evidence these are fighting dogs?

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  8/17/2016 3:16 PM  |  Flag  
We think it is the first of this kind. There have a been a few cases when the dog was allowed to live after fighting a lengthily court battle (Google Onion, kills boy on birthday). It is the first case that we know of when city officials (police and animal control) released the dogs back to the owners and without giving any citations or a dangerous dog designation. This was a vicious off property attack too. We also know at this stage that the owners knew the dogs were escaping the ContainerLand fencing and a year earlier, these pit bulls or other pit bulls owned by the owners, had attacked a female.

No, there is no evidence these were fighting dogs.

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