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Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/22/2009 6:29 AM  |  Flag  
It would appear that Pit Bulls are dangerously defective product...

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/22/2009 12:44 PM  |  Flag  
It turns out the "hounds from hell" aren't hounds at all, but terriers - pit bull terriers.

I'm putting the pit bull advocacy experts in the same class as the economic experts that were screaming, "Buy! Buy! Buy!" a year ago. The reality is self evident. I only wish there was a pit bull advocacy stock I could short sell.

Nothing to see here folks... move along. 52 deaths, in the span of a few years, are perfectly acceptable when you're running an advocacy scam.

Blogger Honesty Helps  |  4/22/2009 1:25 PM  |  Flag  
I do wish that records were kept on the reproductive status of these cases. That could only be of great help to establishing neutering programs for all dogs, but especially the pits. Altering can make a difference in temperament but it is not a guarantee by any means. And I do wish that these dogs were studied instead of euthanized so we might learn something as to why they do what they do. It's just so hurtful that it continues period.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/22/2009 3:22 PM  |  Flag  
It would be almost impossible to study such dogs, as they would either have to exist in an artificial type environment that is nothing like that of a household pet, or people and animals would have to be exposed to the very real danger of death from their attacks. It's about time that somebody not in the pocket of dog breeders and dog fighters was studying this issue. The pit nutters can bellyache, howl, and moan, but they can't argue with hard data and hard facts. Of course, it won't stop them from trying. Fortunately, when they do, they usually reveal themselves to be just as vicious as their dogs. Not very good PR.

Blogger Honesty Helps  |  4/22/2009 5:09 PM  |  Flag  
You're right there, Anon, I've thought the same thing, how can they study them? It's just like the nutters saying that it is a matter of raising them right, how do they know unless they put the dog in a situation so they can correct the behavior? That would place pets and people in jeopardy. You can't say your dog won't do something if the dog has never been in the situation to display behavior to correct. But I do wish there was a way to do it.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/22/2009 5:49 PM  |  Flag  
We already know why they do what they do: they were bred to act in certain ways different from other types of dogs. Dogs developed a certain social code so they could live together peacefully. But such a dog would not fight another dog for no reason or to keep on fighting despite signs of submission from the other dog. Fighting breeds have been so throughly perverted through breeding that these things are not only possible, but expected. When pit bull owners learn these things and own their dogs appropriately, there will be far fewer attacks and deaths. However, since every pit bull advocacy web site is geared to telling the world that pit bulls are just like any other dog and are solely the product of their training, it is now painfully obvious that this problem will only be solved by those outside the pit bull loving community.

Blogger Honesty Helps  |  4/22/2009 7:31 PM  |  Flag  
I have said for awhile that we are in denial about these breeds. We don't deny the hunting instinct we bred into them, nor the guarding instinct nor the herding instinct, so why deny the vicious instinct we bred into the pits? They say it is a matter of "raising them right". Just try to stop a retriever from getting a ball, no matter how you raise them. Try to keep a Newfie out of the water by "raising it right". Besides I have yet to figure out what that means anyway. So as long as we are in denial, there will be problems.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/22/2009 8:52 PM  |  Flag  
Add another one to the Pit Bull Dead Pool. RIP little one...,1,5686031.story


Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 12:53 AM  |  Flag  
I don't think there is anything to study.

These dogs are a product of their breeding. They have been intentionally bred to have these behaviors and characteristics for hundreds of years.

This is a manmade problem.

Blogger bitbypit  |  4/23/2009 1:07 AM  |  Flag  
It has been noted that a fatal pit bull attack occurred on the very day that released its multi-year fatality report. The report shows the alarming, disproportionate number of fatal attacks by pit bulls.

Anonymous FoolMeOnce  |  4/23/2009 6:21 AM  |  Flag  
Bitbypit, I would like to know if you could also keep a tally of the number of people seriously maimed by these monsters.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 6:49 AM  |  Flag  
No one is supposed to be tracking this information, since the dog lobby successfully terminated collection of DBRFs by the CDC in 2000.

This is why the dog lobby hates DBO...They now operate in a manner reminescent of the tobacco companies during the 50's.

Great job DBO...Pit Breeders get an "F"!

Blogger bitbypit  |  4/23/2009 11:02 AM  |  Flag  
Starting in 2009, pit bull attacks reported in the media that result in severe injury are tracked and recorded by This information will be released at the end of 2nd quarter.

Anonymous FoolMeOnce  |  4/23/2009 11:07 AM  |  Flag  
Whoa!!! I did not know that about the CDC no longer tracking dog bites. A pitnutter was lambasting someone that posted the CDC dog bite statistics from 1998. The nutter gave him a hard time because he didn't cite anything recent. Now I know the heck did they manage to get dog-bite report gathering illegal?

Anonymous FoolMeOnce  |  4/23/2009 11:13 AM  |  Flag  
Thanks, BitbyPit. Every 21 days, a horrific death. That figure should be enough said. One of the recent articles said that a young little victim was "bitten" by a pit-bull. "Bitten" evokes a much different impression than "devastatingly mauled," which is actually what happened. The picture of Frankie, the thought of Kristi missing half her arm tissue, the thought of people's eyes and ears being ripped from their heads -- pitnutters call these "bites". They ain't called pitnutters for nuttin'!

Blogger bitbypit  |  4/23/2009 12:21 PM  |  Flag  
There is no evidence that the CDC has stopped tracking dog bites that result in severe injury or death. The issue in regards to the CDC is that fatal attacks are NO LONGER tracked by dog breed. This conclusion is drawn due to the fact that since 1998, there has yet to be another CDC fatal dog attack report that involves breed information.

Anonymous Jimmy O  |  4/23/2009 3:19 PM  |  Flag  
"Great job DBO...Pit Breeders get an "F"!"

As well as Pit Rescuers, Shelters and Animal Control.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/23/2009 4:41 PM  |  Flag  
Anon, interesting comment about the tobacco industries because a tobacco company lobbyist also works for the dog breeder/pit bull world

You will see links to his Consumer Freedom or Activist Cash front groups sites on the dog fighter sites, puppy mill sites, AKC groups, etc

He always uses the same tactics, lies, obfuscation, fake statistics, attacks on truthtellers.

Anonymous Trigger  |  4/23/2009 7:01 PM  |  Flag  
There is a blog post that talks about the "researchers" at the CDC...

Who Authored the CDC Fatal Dog Attack Report (1979 to 1998)?

Anonymous FoolMeOnce  |  4/24/2009 3:27 PM  |  Flag  
Thanks, Trigger. I thought I'd seen something about that on here.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, however, there is definitely some shady underhanded things going on in Animal Control, anti-BSL groups, etc. etc. etc.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  4/25/2009 2:49 AM  |  Flag  
The Pit Bull community is dishonestly trying to jettison their breeding problem onto the owners(buyers) of their dangerous product.

Time for them to start taking ownership of the problem and start culling!


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