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Blogger Don Prather  |  3/18/2017 10:59 PM  |  Flag  
This needs to make it to the NOLA news and the Iowa news.. how do we see to it that this is known in both communities.. the effect these women have had on this child and this family?

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  3/18/2017 11:15 PM  |  Flag  
You bring up an excellent point! We have already contacted the Clinton newspaper (they have been following the fundraising page). As for NOLA, they probably want to keep this quiet. The New Iberia Animal Shelter continues to delete things too!

Blogger Where The Sand Pea Grows  |  3/18/2017 11:21 PM  |  Flag  
This picture left me shaking. How do the surgeons even begin their work on this child? This child's picture needs to be shown to the public over and over. Most people believe that pits can bite, but they don't really understand how much damage they can do. I hope that dog was put down and the shelter sued to the limits of its policy.

Blogger casey q  |  3/19/2017 12:41 AM  |  Flag  
This breaks my heart. My daughter was bitten when she was a freshman in hs by a pitt. It was a family dog. Not ours, her boyfriends. She had been around the dog for weeks.
The dog bit her face. Tore her eyelid from her eye, damaged the tear duct, damaged her eye, no longer focuses, and puncture wounds around her face. She had nightmares for years. It effects them forever.
Praying for this little mans healing, physically and mentally. !

Blogger J Bunda  |  3/19/2017 12:47 AM  |  Flag  
Dogs are not humans. Dangerous dog breeds should be banned. These dogs should be put down.

The child's parent, the dog owner, and the rescue org. should be held criminally liable for this child's life-long dismemberment.

OpenID joelande  |  3/19/2017 4:23 AM  |  Flag  
Louisiana is a HOTBED of dog fighting. There are so many dog fighters, dog fighting breeders, and they breed them aggressive.

Generations of dog fighting clans, generations of dogs specifically and selectively breed to attack and kill.

Big money in La dog fighting, thanks to no regulation, and these "rescue transport" businesses are just another arm of dog fighting. They take the cast off fighters and the surplus, and remarket them as "pets" when they aren't. It's all lies.

They help prop up the dog fighting businesses by lobbying for their interests too.

There's NOTHING about rescue with these businesses. They are preying on these dogs themselves for profit, and making the situation worse for even the pit bulls.

If any of them are shipping these fighting breeds into your area, you have trouble and people need to get very vocal about keeping these shady operations out of their communities.

OpenID joelande  |  3/19/2017 4:27 AM  |  Flag  
The crazy thing about these pit bull "rescue transport" businesses is that they know there are unwanted pit bulls in the states they are shipping these dogs to. They don't care!

Shipping out the dogs means more money coming in, even if it means condemning pit bulls in the destination states.

That's how deep the problem is- they don't care about people or other animals, and they don't even care about the pit bulls themselves. They make problems worse for everyone.

The name of the game is money.

OpenID joelande  |  3/19/2017 4:36 AM  |  Flag  
"but has a strict waiting list for local owner surrenders and accepts animals from "out-of-state" at their choosing."

This is what this means. The Clinton Humane Society is NOT helping people and dogs in their own community.

Instead they are using the shelter to launder out-of-state fighting dogs because they get MONEY for these dogs. It is a lucrative dog dealing industry.

Blogger Lauren  |  3/19/2017 8:01 AM  |  Flag  
I can't believe there are people who immediately want to save him after what he's done.

Blogger Your Quiet Neighbor  |  3/19/2017 9:59 AM  |  Flag  
One of my friends is a personal injury lawyer who won BIG in case like this one. It can be done.

I hope this child's family sues and wins.

Blogger Cathy Callahan  |  3/19/2017 10:17 AM  |  Flag  
Another horrific attack. However . . . . some responsibility for this attack should be placed on the child's parents/caregivers. Why would anyone let a baby or child near a newly adopted dog of any breed? Many dogs are nervous around children in addition to being apprehensive about being in a new home surrounded by strangers. Having said that, I certainly hope the innocent child recovers with the least amount of lifelong disabilities.

Blogger Ka D  |  3/19/2017 10:36 AM  |  Flag  
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around anyone letting a child this small 'play' with any new dog much less a pit bull. "A new dog in the house is dangerous for the first 60 days, and a person who is new to a household where a dog resides is in danger of attack for the first 60 days. In 2012, roughly one-third of all dog bite fatality victims were either visiting or living temporarily with the dog's owner when the attack occurred, and 75% of deaths under these circumstances were children ages 8-years and younger." https://dogbitelaw.com/parents/a-dog-attack-danger-scale-to-keep-you-and-your-kids-safe

Blogger responsible dog guy  |  3/19/2017 12:16 PM  |  Flag  
Pit bulls are now 6 percent of the United States dog population. Attacks on people, pets, and livestock continue to rise. No need for this breed that does the deed. Rid the country of this terrible breed.

Blogger LibertarianThinker  |  3/19/2017 9:49 PM  |  Flag  
@Cathy Callahan, I disagree with placing any blame on the parents. Yes, I agree that letting a child near a dangerous dog, especially one newly adopted is a bad idea. However, people make mistakes, and this is a mistake that a lot of people have made due to the incessant lies put out by pit bull advocates. The blame solely lies primarily with the shelters and "rescue transporters" involved with putting this killer dog in a home, and secondarily with pitbull advocacy groups that continually lie that pit bulls are no more dangerous than any other dog.

Blogger amy, of course  |  3/19/2017 11:38 PM  |  Flag  
I would just like to clarify that this dog was not adopted by the parents of the child. A friend visited their home and brought the dog along.

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  3/19/2017 11:53 PM  |  Flag  
Amy, thank you so much. We should have added more about this into our post, but the GoFundMe page is clear about this. Still, commenters need a reminder! Thank you again!

Blogger Ka D  |  3/20/2017 10:07 AM  |  Flag  
Of course the BEST way to avoid a tragedy is just do NOT adopt a pit bull.

Blogger Chihuahua Waves  |  3/20/2017 12:45 PM  |  Flag  
Poor little Lucas... never had a chance.
Fantastic work, collecting the dirt, before the pit bull / vicious dog pushers could sweep the dirt under the rug! If not for your dedication, the world might never know the cause and backstory of such an horrific injury to a toddler. Everyone involved in preserving that vicious dog should be charged with criminal negligence.

Blogger Tubby Bear  |  3/20/2017 1:44 PM  |  Flag  
Pitbulls and pitbull mixes are 'zero mistake' / 'zero tolerance' dogs. The rescue group shell game isn't doing any favors to anyone, and neither are 'no kill' shelters. Support BSL, and remember that there was a time when children and their real pets could play in the streets and backyards of America without having pitbulls and pitbull mixes rip them apart.

Blogger Your Quiet Neighbor  |  3/20/2017 2:15 PM  |  Flag  
Here in Tucson, the local humane society just opened a thrift store on 4th Avenue. That's hipster central in this town.

Well, this past Saturday, the grand opening took place. Complete with pit bull wearing a vest that said "Adopt Me."

I wonder how good the humane society's liability insurance is.

Blogger Natasha Nogoodnik  |  3/20/2017 8:54 PM  |  Flag  
The B. A. R. C. test doesn't correctly test for aggression, but instead for barking and growling. Sure, you should avoid a dog that growls and snaps, but isn't that obvious? The test has nothing about real signs of aggression, such as ears forward and quiet intensity, and some of the things that are on the "good" side are really not good at all.

Pit bulls never attack without warning, but since most of us don't know how to read the signs, we have no business owning them. It's the animal shelter employee's job to cull the aggressive ones, but they're caught up in the "poor, misunderstood pit bull" story and have no idea what they are doing. The dog must have shown signs, this sort of thing doesn't just come out of the blue, but thanks to this worse than useless test and several bleeding hearts, a young child suffered a horrible attack.

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  3/20/2017 8:56 PM  |  Flag  
There are some interesting comments coming in from rescue/shelter workers, but they continue to blame the parents who do not play any role in blame. We are not going to publish any more comments that blame the parents. The person who adopted the dog brought it to Lucas' home. The dog was rehomed by CHS and it attacked a child's face less than two hours later. That is the issue. Did the adopter walk out of CHS with a manual of specific instructions? A "How To" about the alleged "settling in" process? We don't know, but we imagine not. So unless you have information about this area, speculation is not appropriate. What we do know, based on the CHS website, is they administer the BARC Checklist, which offers no pass or fail and does not test for children or cats.

Also, a public group has been created on Facebook that is following Lucas' recovery. You have to be invited to post, but otherwise anyone from the public can read the posts: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2238745883017450/

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  3/20/2017 9:16 PM  |  Flag  
@Natasha There is ample evidence that pit bulls attack without warning -- this is, in part, why so many appellate courts have upheld pit bull bans. The characteristics of fighting dogs (pit bulls) are unique to other breeds in this area. Pit bulls frequently fool "experts" as well.

Colorado Dog Fanciers v. Denver (1991)
"The trial court also found that pit bulls tend to be stronger than other dogs, often give no warning signals before attacking, and are less willing than other dogs to retreat from an attack, even when they are in considerable pain."

Vanater v. Village of South Point (1989)
"Pit Bulls also possess the quality of gameness … which can be described as the propensity to catch and maul an attacked victim unrelentingly until death occurs ... It is clear that the unquantifiable, unpredictable aggressiveness and gameness of Pit Bulls make them uniquely dangerous."

American Dog Owners Ass'n v. Dade County (1989)
"to increase its effectiveness as a fighter, certain pit bull traits have been selected and maximized by controlled breeding, including 1) a set of powerful jaws with an exceptional ability to grip, lock and tear … 4) an extraordinary directness in their method of attack that does not include the common warning signs such as barking or growling displayed by other breeds"

The ethology and epidemiology of canine aggression
"Dogs from fighting lineages have been under selective pressures that suppress or eliminate accurate communication of aggressive motivation or intent. It is to a fighting dog’s advantage for its attack to be unexpected. Many accounts of such attacks on people not that the incident occurred ‘without warning’"

Blogger K-Hart  |  3/20/2017 9:38 PM  |  Flag  
I have a son who is almost 15 months old. The idea if something like that happening to his beautiful little face... there are no words. My prayers go out to the little guy and his family for a speedy recovery and no bumps in the long road they have ahead of them. I hope that someone will be held liable for what happened to him. There is plenty of blame to go around, all squarely resting on the shoulders of those who brought this mauler into circulation. These pit bull "rescues" are no different than illegal arms dealers, pumping dangerous weapons unrestricted into the neighborhoods and homes of innocent children. It makes me sick. And so do the psychotic pit advocates who blame babies for their own maulings and deaths. There is a special place in hell for those people.

Blogger AlisonSmith  |  3/21/2017 1:12 AM  |  Flag  
The problems with shelters being reckless started with the pit bulls, whose owners/breeders are the source of such pit-normalizing shelter theories as the 3-week shutdown post-adoption and behavior testing as biased and useless, but the effects are there when you try to adopt any shelter dog. It's interesting - shelters have become very possessive of the process of assessing a dog, but also don't actually want to assess a dog. For example - with my last dog, adopted in 1999, I was basically handed the leash and told to go walk her outside to see if I liked her. That was actually perfect, allowing me to both see her wild energy and to find out that if you sat down on a bench, she'd circle back and be friendly. That walk doesn't happen today - now you're taken to a room or an outdoor dog pen with the dog, who is then released to run loose in the room or pen while a volunteer remains watching you and distracting you as much as humanly possible. You ask the person questions, which they answer vaguely (he's sweet, she seems fine with other dogs, he gives kisses) and the dog runs ceaselessly around the confined space sniffing and ignoring you. It's a setup designed to make it impossible to asses the dog - how often, after all, does your life as a dog owner involve standing in a small room or pen with it - and yet, every question about what the "professionals" have observed in the dog is answered with generalities and deflection. If you express discontent with the information provided, you are reminded, often condescendingly, that this is a rescue and there are no guarantees.

Blogger Natasha Nogoodnik  |  3/21/2017 7:08 AM  |  Flag  
Colleen Lynn, you misunderstood what I wrote. I was basically saying the same thing as the quote you used: "to increase its effectiveness as a fighter, certain pit bull traits have been selected and maximized by controlled breeding, including...4) an extraordinary directness in their method of attack that does not include the common warning signs such as barking or growling displayed by other breeds"

This, along with their powerful physiology and their preferred method of attacking--the hang on and shake versus the regular bite and release of most other breed--make them unsafe as pets. Most people don't know how to read the important signs, especially children, pit bull apologists, and, oddly enough, shelter employees.

Powerful dogs that are that are so hard to read don't belong in people's homes as pets.

Blogger Misty Hietamaki  |  3/21/2017 7:11 AM  |  Flag  
Why was the dog adopted unnutered? Aside from hormone related aggression there is still the problem of overpopulation. I thought shelters spayed and nutered all animals before they were adopted?

Blogger Cindy Ludwig  |  3/21/2017 11:30 AM  |  Flag  
I started my dog training business not too far from there. I know the area well. This could have happened anywhere though, and the breed isn't to blame. It's the lack of knowledge of people working in the animal sheltering and re-homing business. There is absolutely no excuse, in my opinion, for shelters using amateur trainers rather than professionals who have the knowledge needed to properly assess the behavior of dogs, provide training to shelter workers, and make recommendations about training and placement. I speak from experience.

Blogger JulieU  |  3/21/2017 12:24 PM  |  Flag  
Terrible....and terribly irresponsible by all those who handled this dog prior to its adoption. Here is my question. The FB page for the poor boy who was bitten stated he had to undergo shots for rabies control. How was that dog adopted out of even the LA facility w/out having a rabies shot? Secondly, if a dog bites and is euthanized, its brain should be sent in for rabies testing. Why wasn't this done? Wouldn't this negate the need for this poor child to endure even more treatment? Shelters/Rescue groups who adopt out dogs that cause bodily harm/death need to be held accountable. Maybe then we will see this highly popular race to place a dog in its forever home stalled a bit. I am a dog lover and have adopted two dogs from shelters, but the fact of the matter is that no one can truly predict when and if a dog will bite or if aggressive behavior exists or will be brought about by different triggers, esp with dogs that come w/no background information. Releasing these dogs to anyone, esp families w/children is highly negligent. I'm sorry, but not all dogs are adoptable. People need to realize this. It's sad and most would love for all dogs to be saved, but some are very dangerous and unpredictable-as was the case w/this dog.

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  3/21/2017 12:40 PM  |  Flag  
@Cindy, it's certainly fair to say that multiple powerful dog breeds are "capable" of this type of attack, but this type of gravely damaging bite is not the work of a yorki or a pug. Breed absolutely plays a role.

"A large part of his gum/bone including permanent teeth were ripped out, most of his nose cartilage was destroyed, and he will have lifelong damage. He will not have any upper front teeth, will need dental reconstruction to hopefully support false teeth when he is an adult, and have more facial surgeries in the future."

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  3/21/2017 12:47 PM  |  Flag  
@JulieU there are multiple Facebook pages now. Which one do you refer to? Please provide a link. Rabies shots are not mentioned anywhere on the Funding page (that we can see).

Blogger Unknown  |  3/21/2017 5:51 PM  |  Flag  
This NEEDS to go national. It is my understanding its happening at shelters all over the states. It is not acceptable. I have one item to add to the list when adopting from a shelter. DO YOUR HOMEWORK, be able to at least kind of recognize the breeds. I know it is not a breed specific thing, but when adopting an adult dog into a family with children, there are some breeds better left to experienced owners.

Blogger AlisonSmith  |  3/21/2017 9:35 PM  |  Flag  
Speaking of - interesting - shelter/rescue decisions, I came across the case of Watauga Humane Society and Joe Dirt today. Adopted out in 2015, returned in 2016, no takers between April and June, made a special project as he deteriorates behaviorially in the kennels - apparently displaying scary aggressive behavior toward people walking down the kennel row. Between June and November, while under the special care and training of the shelter's Diamond Dogs program, Joe Dirt bites 3 people; the last is serious enough to warrant an ER visit for the victim, and results in a bite quarantine. WHS begins fundraising to ship him to a trainer in Ohio who specializes in vicious dogs, but first sends him home with a very special volunteer, Lisa. She ends up mauled and begging for cash on GoFundMe.

Amazing people at WHS. They watch an ownerless dog bite over and over and over, pretend it's 'reactivity' and spend what must have been hundreds and would soon have been thousands of dollars on its care and a rehab which is NOT working and which is not kind or humane to the animal. A dog who bites that much is not a happy dog; he's either so dominant he's endlessly frustrated by confinement, or he's so anxious he's endlessly stimulated by the kennels and by strangers. Either way, both the rational and the humane thing to do was euthanize him last year. Instead, they wait until he mauls someone? We need oversight in rescue.

Blogger praline  |  3/21/2017 11:32 PM  |  Flag  
I foster in Louisiana but not with this shelter. Some things to look into would be the dog's intake date. During that time that particular parish had a historic flood. I was one of many rescuers/foster people who helped in the rescue of 100s of animals ..most being yanked up by their heads into rescue boats. I ended up with several kittens (i mostly foster cats for the humane society but will on occasion take a foster dog in a pinch) and saw the good and hard work of many volunteers. The problem came in when out of state groups showed up for these "freedom" runs before the dogs were accessed or owners located. PETA was the worst of them to do so. These transports literally grabbed dogs and ran out of state. At the intake time you are stating this particular shelter was still flooded. That doesn't mean the shelter was not responsible. During this disaster a lot of animals were mixed, moved, evacuated, brought back and adopted out. Very few, if any, records from the flooded shelters are accurate. The La. shelter failed this dog and family. The transport people failed them and the IA rescue group failed them. Each and everyone of these groups should have done their own assessments. During this time there was huge drama and arrests for neglect of a private rescue's president. The group is called: SNARR, the national Special Needs Animal Rescue & Rehabilitation group. They specialize in hard cases but there were some seizures done by the parish as the animals were neglected and the president was arrested. Since this was in the same parish it might be helpful to look into that group to see if Emmet was with them. I would for sure do some more digging on the above stuff I brought up. With that said not all shelters or rescue groups in La. work like this. Our shelter supervisor is a vet and works her fingers to the bone for any animal but it the first to say a dog is not adoptable. Its a hard thing to say and the shelter takes so beef for those decisions but its stuff like this that helps them do so. When adopting a dog make sure you have all information on the dog. I personally would not adopt a dog that had not been fostered in a home with a knowledgeable foster care giver. This story is so heartbreaking for the family but also for those rescues and shelters who are top notch as it kills the level of trust people put on us. =( Lying or withholding information on temperament of 1 dogs kills 100s more so those "all dogs must live" people do more harm than good. Every rescue and shelter should have a level of integrity that is untouchable, like we have in the shelter I volunteer for but PLEASE don't blame all the shelters in our state as most are really good and do their best.

Blogger Unknown  |  3/22/2017 1:29 AM  |  Flag  
This is such a horrible story. My thoughts and prayers go out to Lucas and his family.

But my thoughts and prayers also go out to Emmet and ALL other animals caught up in our backward system. It only takes one "shelter" to make a horrendous screw-up like this; to overlook, to cover-up, to ignore paramount details about each and every animal that could/would have avoided such a catastrophic event like Lucas. I'm a volunteer at a local animal shelter and I know there is no 100% guarantee against such an attack, but to do nothing, no behavioral tests, not even making an observation is unforgivable. This is another nail in the coffin of animal shelters, adoption, but most of all Pit Bulls.

Blogger Lucu Lencia  |  3/22/2017 6:47 AM  |  Flag  
It's very likely that this dog did not display any signs during temperament testing that it would attack or was aggressive. Aggression / prey drive can be very specific; perhaps the dog is fine with adults and sees children as prey? The test is at fault for not testing the dog's reaction to children - especially a dog breed bred specifically for killing and maiming and not stopping an attack once it's started no matter what. I would love to see pitbulls go extinct but since that is unlikely to happen anytime soon, at least rescues that insist on adopting them out should be testing the dog's thoroughly and euthanizing any that don't pass.

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  3/22/2017 12:49 PM  |  Flag  
@praline Yes, the historic 2016 Louisiana floods occurred in August. We only have information from the Animals of IPAC adoption listing. The dog's ad was posted in mid-October, and the dog had been at the shelter "since around October" stated a commenter on the thread. So yes, the intake could definitely be flood related, and could have been as earlier as September. The shelter's official adoption pages at Petango, here and here, don't list the actual intake date either.

You describe an aftermath (by the out-of-state rescues) that sounds a lot like post-Katrina. We are looking into SNARR -- thank you for all of your tips!

We very much understand there are shelters with high integrity in Louisiana and across the country who are constantly taking a beating from no-kill factions and misguided rescuers. Notably, even adoption listings from the Pentago pages refer to the shelter as, "Now, she's stuck in a crowded, kill shelter praying for someone to save her." It is sad that they refer to their own open admission shelter that way, given the limited resources and heavy load of incoming animals.

Blogger Colleen Lynn  |  3/22/2017 5:44 PM  |  Flag  
@JulieU -- We found the mention of rabies shots! Oh my word, this dog did not even have a rabies vaccination. It was posted in the public group. Speechless!

Today he gets his second round of rabies shots as well. He sure does like to keep his nurses on their toes which is good because it shows mommy and daddy that his personality is still there.

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