Thursday, August 14, 2008



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Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/14/2008 6:18 AM  |  Flag  
They hold on so long because they love their owners more than other breeds....

Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/14/2008 7:31 AM  |  Flag  
What is truly shocking is that many, many pro-pit websites bragging that they represent "responsible" pit bull owners advocate the use of spring poles and flirt poles to "exercise" their dogs. Spring poles are used to strenthen a dogs jaws, period. Many humane experts feel that springpole use encourages aggression. There is an attempt to "normalize" springpole use within the pit bull community to make it harder to prove that springpole use indicates the dogs are being fought (which it does). This is yet another way that the pro-pit community tries to protect the dogfighters.

Normal people excersize their dogs by playing ball with them, taking them on long walks where they can learn good leash manners, jogging with them on leash, playing games with them in the back yard, etc. It is dangerous to train a pit bull to bite down and not let go, and build up its jaw muscles to a degree that if it does attack another person or dog, it will inflict a horrible amount of damage. No pet dog owner should be using a springpole for their dog....shockingly, in the description of one dog up for adoption on the Bad Rap website, the authors describe the dog as loving the "flirt pole". Why a so-called rescue group like Bad Rap advocates springpole use, keeping "outside" dogs on "cable tie outs" (a euphemism for a chain), and posts a link to a former dogfighters website, is beyond me.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/14/2008 8:07 AM  |  Flag  
I have some very important information to share, and I hope this helps so many of you who have experienced being terrorized by a neighbors pit bull. A friend of mine is in a situation where her family, including her two small children, have been terrorized by a neighbor's pit bull. For various reasons, going through our small town AC and police department have not accomplished anything; the owner simply refuses to comply, and the dog continues to roam loose. The dog has a bite history, yet because it did not result in serious injury, nothing was done. We have seen time and again, even in towns with dangerous dog ordinances, it is very difficult to get a dangerous pit bull removed from a home; usually the only time it happens is after a horrific attack causing devastating injury.

I suggested to my friend that the dog owners home insurance carrier is probably unaware that the its customer is harboring a banned breed with a bite history. My friend called a few major carriers in our state to see if they were her neighbors carrier; the response she got was surprising. Both companies she called were EXTREMELY interested and cooperative, checked their data bases and told her, if the dog owner was their customer they would have an agent out to the home the following DAY. Unfortunately, neither carrier had the neighbor as a customer.

That's when I had another idea.

We all know that most pit bull owners try to remain under the radar...they often don't license and register their dogs, and when they do, they usually falsify the dogs breed, listing it as a "terrier" or "terrier mix", or even a "boxer mix". Failure to disclose a known risk to your insurance carrier is insurance fraud. (You can't, for instance, fail to disclose that you are manufacturing fireworks in your basement when you apply for homeowners insurance). I suggested my friend contact the state insurance fraud anonymous hotline and report suspected insurance fraud.

The response was immediate...the investigators confirmed that this was, indeed considered insurance fraud if the carrier was not aware that the dog owner owned a pit bull with a bite history. They eagerly took all the information, and assured her that she would remain anonymous. They requested dates of police resports of incidents, etc. The owner of the dog has a mortgage, which requires home owners insurance; it is quite likely his insurance carrier will cancel his policy if the dog remains, which means his lender can call in the loan. This may be the easiest way to remove a dangerous dog from a neighborhood, and I hope other posters take note.

Don't wait until you, your children, or your pets fall victim to a dangerous dog in your neighborhood. Make sure to make reports of threatening behavior, or of the dog roaming off leash. Write down everything, take photos if you can. Then contact your states insurance fraud hotline. The homeowner or landlord can lose their insurance coverage if the dog remains. Honestly, there isn't an insurance carrier in the world who would insure a pit bull with a documented history of aggression. They have a database which can locate the carrier and will work to eliminate the actuarial risk of a potentially huge claim by forcing the dog owner to get rid of the dog.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/14/2008 9:03 AM  |  Flag  
Another pit bull home invasion...can't remember if we already covered this one?

http://www.weyi.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=174364

Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/14/2008 11:48 AM  |  Flag  
Here is another case of criminals using their "pet" pit bulls as weapons...

http://cbs13.com/local/pit.bulls.killed.2.794762.html

Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/14/2008 1:27 PM  |  Flag  
I have threatened to contact the insurance company of a neighbor with an aggressive dog (not pit bull) and that neighbor shaped up quick!!

Anonymous blue'smom  |  8/14/2008 4:50 PM  |  Flag  
The anonymous suggestion above regarding the notification of the state Insurance Fraud Tipline is genius, just genius!

Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/14/2008 4:54 PM  |  Flag  
I guess the upside to spring pole training is that we know what these dogs will do if they ever come across a dangling electrical wire.

Re: The post above. Love the point about insurance fraud for deliberate misrepresentation. Good to know.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/14/2008 5:00 PM  |  Flag  
Here is another incident of a pit bull attacking two children who were riding bikes.

http://www.pioneerlocal.com/glenview/news/1108412,gv-pitbull-081408-s1.article

It's important to read the witnesses description of the attack...that there was nothing the bystanders could do to stop the dog, it was impervious to pain and totally focused on attacking the children....sound like a trait of a fighting dog?

Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/14/2008 7:17 PM  |  Flag  
Thank you to Blue's Mom and anonymous, I only wish I had thought of it a few years ago, when my own children were menaced by a neighborhood pit bull. I think it would help in a lot of situations, even when a neighborhood pit bull mauls another dog...often, the owner of a dog that is attacked by a pit bull is told there is nothing that can be done, because the pit bull hasn't bitten a human and its victim is "only" another animal.

The insurance carriers don't really see it that way....they see the reality...that a pit bull who has attacked another dog is a risk to humans as well, and that no one can really rely on a pit bull owners promise to keep their dog contained in the future. Also, in the case where the owners immediately insist that the dog belongs to a son or daughter, who is often a minor; legally the homeowners can be named as harborers of a dangerous dog, and be sued if a victim proves that the homeowners knew the dog was dangerous. The insurance company isn't really going to say, "Oh, OK, the four snarling pit bulls in the backyard can stay put, as long as you tell us they belong to your 17 year old son!" The insurance company is only going to consider the fact that the dogs reside at the property.

Please spread the word to other victims, this is one more tool they can use to deal with abusive pit bull owners. The beauty of it is,unlike going to the police or AC, the caller is never identified. The insurance agent simply shows up to confirm the exsistence of the dogs, and any evidence of police reports, attacks, etc. There is no threat of retaliation by the dog owners, because they will never know who, if anyone, tipped the insurance carrier off.

Anonymous Trigger  |  8/16/2008 5:09 PM  |  Flag  
Crank up the volume on this one! It is outrageously chilling...

Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/17/2008 5:38 AM  |  Flag  
Like we are supposed to believe that dumbass mauler will differentiate between a match dog and a child!!!!

Anonymous Anonymous  |  8/17/2008 11:10 PM  |  Flag  
The idea of contacting the insurance company listed with the mortgage is a great idea. In fact, any "aggressive dog" law should require animal control authorities to both investigate the presence of such insurance, the carrier, and file copies of all reports from their agency to the insurance carrier! A mandatory reporting law that would also require dog owners to list the mortgage carrier with all license applications.

Anonymous Anonymous  |  6/29/2009 9:16 PM  |  Flag  
This is a brilliant idea. We are in the middle of litigation and it is near its endgame but if our Jerry Springer loser neighbor gets another big dog I will call the insurance fraud hotline.

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